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Activists, community members applaud local governments' stance on coal export expansion
METRO VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
CKNW News Staff | Email news tips to nwnews@cknw.com
3/17/2013

Several Metro Vancouver municipalities are getting applause  from coal activists and people from the White Rock, Surrey and Bellingham areas - for expressing concerns about coal export expansion.

More than 100 people came out Sunday in White Rock to show support and celebrate.

Climate change activist Kevin Washbook says he's pleased with local governments' stance.

"We want to show our support to local government who've taken a stand expressing their concerns about expanded coal exportation out of Metro Vancouver. In the past week City of Vancouver, City of Surrey and City of White Rock have all passed a motion which say hey Port Metro Vancouver, slow down. You want to expand coal exports but you haven't consulted with us yet."

Port Metro Vancouver has approved the expansion of a coal facility in North Vancouver and now is looking to build a coal transfer terminal at Fraser Surrey Docks.

This would mean increased train traffic through local communities like White Rock, Surrey and Delta.


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  1. ChrisM_18 posted on 03/17/2013 08:14 PM
    Progress must be stopped at all cost ! No need to worry about where we will find money for all of the planned infrastructure projects in the lower mainland ! We don't need more business in the Vancouver ports ! All the moeny we need can be grown on trees !!
    1. Ken280 posted on 03/17/2013 10:46 PM
      @ChrisM_18 Hey! Chris we should ask the liberal/cons of the coalition to give back the money they have take from the taxpayer in the last 12 years Then get the corporate interests to pony up their part in the take over of BC! We would have lot of money for future years! If it was all so rosy as they proclaimed in BC, why are we out of UN's top 10 developed countries we now stand at 11th and in the 90's we help the number one spot for most of the decade,our performance in health,education and income placed us in 11th spot and you people blame the activists,the corps get and take, we get nothing to even compare with the royalties taken out! It was only a matter of time before the people spoke, not you right wingers you are the few,the thousands are beginning to wake up and see what the right wing really stand for and all they see so far is all for them!They find it hard to pay a decent wage or give training The liberals/Cons were directly responsible for this. Apprenticeship completions have dropped 44% since Gordon Campbell put his stamp on BC's apprenticeship program.
      The BC Liberal party are not Liberals, the majority of the party are actually disguised Conservatives, old corrupt power brokers from the BC Social Credit party, when the Socreds imploded and were sent to the woodshed..Gordon Campbell hijacked Gordon Wilson`s BC Liberal party and filled it with Socreds and disguised them as moderate BC Liberals, the party was never Liberal, or moderate, they turned out to be a corporate interest`s first party, Crony capitalism, a modern day facist/corpo run Government. We need a change Chris!!!
  2. RobK_3 posted on 03/17/2013 09:55 PM
    100 people show up for an anti-coal protest. That is 4/1000 of 1% of the population of the Lower Mainland. But I'm sure that the self-appointed head of this protest group probably phoned the radio station half a dozen times trying to get a reporter to show up. Of course the media loves any hint of a protest, even one as trivial as this and so the intrepid reporter did show up.

    And to hear what message? That we should shut the world down because a few people believe every Chicken Little story that comes along. When can we expect a little balanced reporting?
    1. RichardF_4221 posted on 03/18/2013 01:05 AM
      @RobK_3 Thanks Chicken Little.
      Maybe a step closer to the Vancouver Island coal mine near Fanny Bay, and coal port in Port Alberni.
      Thanks to all the Seed Sucker Chicken Littles in Van.
  3. StephenG_3 posted on 03/17/2013 11:29 PM
    My goodness only 100 folks! Sounds like the hardcore fantasy landers have struck again in droves. What a farce. BC needs both investment and the ability to move raw resources to market. This in turn provides government revenue to support people programs. But I guess the NDP and their supporters really have no clue about economics.
    1. Ken280 posted on 03/18/2013 08:47 PM
      @StephenG_3 the liberals are very good at economics?why do they have to lie about budgets?Go NDP Go
  4. RichardF_4221 posted on 03/18/2013 01:02 AM
    It's okay guys...we're going to slowly grind down the hippies on Vancouver and the Northern Gulf Islands and convince them that mining coal here (creating hundreds of jobs for their kids and grand kids), and shipping it out through Port Alberni (creating jobs for the kids and grand kids of layed off pulp and paper workers there), will be the better option.

    No need to thank us.
  5. joes_2868 posted on 03/18/2013 08:02 AM
    Ken280: The readers consultant, a man with a briefcase 50 miles away from home.
    OH REALLY!
  6. redeye posted on 03/18/2013 08:13 AM
    I've read a lot of rhetoric from both sides of the great coal debate over the last couple of weeks. Seems everyone might be so focused on their cause that they forgot to ask the most obvious math question...

    The current price of thermal coal is $100 per metric ton. Therefore, the proposed 4M ton expansion of the Fraser Surrey docs will transfer $400 million dollars of raw product. I have no idea what the shipping tax rate is on coal, but let's assume 10 percent. If that's true, the federal government would make $40 million per year. (Local governments don't receive shipping tax revenue.)

    So the question is: Does $40 million dollars to the feds justify the risk to local health, slope stability, traffic congestion, safety, beach access, noise, orcas, etc., etc.? In the case of exporting US coal, the added local jobs are only a few low skilled, union workers at the port. (The people driving BNSF trains are exclusively American.)

    When you do the math, the real question isn't: "should the Fraser Surrey docs be expanded?", it's: "Why is any US coal being shipped out of Port Metro Vancouver at all?" Canadian tax payers foot the bill for road infrastructure. The lost transportation efficiency alone, does not cost justify a business case for exporting US coal from Vancouver ports.

    Why are Canadian tax payers waiting at level crossings, and paying to build railway underpasses, for something that adds negligible federal revenue, and no local revenue? It would be great if Russ Hiebert or the port could clarify the above tax assumptions. Once we can see the math, it will be easy for us all to decide what makes sense. ...but, so far, it doesn't look good.

    What's most concerning, is how we ever got here. Do our elected officials not ask a few basic questions when granting permits for the use of our national ports? Maybe, and hopefully, I'm missing something. But, unless my napkin calculation is off by at least one or two orders of magnitude, people's anger shouldn't be aimed at BNSF or Port Metro Vancouver.  Outrage should be focused at the federal transportation authority that grants permits; and at Russ Hiebert, for not managing federal decisions in his riding that make any sense. – To tree-huggers, residents, or tax paying motorists.

    Putting this into perspective, Surrey just voted down a casino, which would have injected 6 million per year into their budget. A single slot machine in a back corner would create more tax benefit to Surrey, than the entire coal shipping business.
    1. Ken280 posted on 03/18/2013 08:50 PM
      @redeye They might not attack you on this! Sound good,I agree 100%
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