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Labour unions turn to the internet to fund legal battle with HD Mining
VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
Shane Woodford | Email news tips to shane.woodford@corusent.com
3/11/2013

Labour unions challenging the Temporary Foreign Workers' permit issued to HD Mining have turned to the internet to fund its legal battle.

The unions involved say the legal battle has now cost over $200,000 to date.

The website - labourspeaksout.com - allows people, who want to help pay for the legal costs, to donate online.

The unions have forced a judicial review of HD Mining's Temporary Foreign Worker permit.

The judicial review will take place April 9th to 11th and it is the first review of its kind into the federal program.

Unions are fighting the permit issued to HD Mining after the company tried to bring in 200 temporary foreign workers from China to its coal mine near Tumbler Ridge.

The unions says qualified Canadian workers were overlooked for those jobs.


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  1. Ron_26 posted on 03/11/2013 08:49 AM
    Now the unions are asking the public for money? Unbelievable!
    1. taxed to death posted on 03/11/2013 08:54 AM
      @Ron_26 yes your correct its is unbelievable that Canadians have to fight against thier own forces in order to save our jobs.

      absolutely shameful that we need to fight to keep canadians working and tax dollars in Canada isnt it!

      Should never happen....congrats to the unions for making it right and helping real Canadian families survive.
    2. LeonW posted on 03/11/2013 10:07 AM
      @Ron_26 Public money? You mean like how the GOVERNMENT has argued on side with HD Mining using your money?
  2. RichardF_4221 posted on 03/11/2013 09:03 AM
    You are both right to a point. Unions make a lot of money on the backs of their workers. Rarely are unions ever truly needed anymore. In this case they are. I still don't think that too many non-union employees are going to donate money to a union. Most non unionists don't understand the steps that unions have taken in creating the labour laws that all of us now enjoy.

    I do find it ironic that unions are asking for money. Why can't the unions focus their combined finances towards this fight?

    Is it not glamourous enough for the rock stars in the driver's seat of the major unions?
    1. Ken280 posted on 03/11/2013 09:29 AM
      @RichardF_4221 On the backs of workers where in hell did you dig this up! people are not forced to work in a union,they work in the unions because of wages and benefits. Why do you not just give it up, if non-union want to protect their jobs they had better pony up too many people just like you! that would give BC away if the money is right! Go NDP Go
    2. LeonW posted on 03/11/2013 10:07 AM
      @RichardF_4221 They are needed all over. Look at the low wages these days.
  3. joes_2868 posted on 03/11/2013 10:16 AM
    Ken280: "GO NDP GO" does not exist in West Vancouver. In the West Vancouver-Capilano riding the % of the popular vote for the NDP in 1991 was 23.52%, 14.90% in 1996, 6.0% in 2001, 18.15% in 2005, and 14.52% in 2009.
    In the West Vancouver-Sea to Sky(formerly Garibaldi), the % of the popular for the NDP was 23.52% in 1991, 29.16% in 1996, 10.92% in 2001, 21.09% in 2005, and 22.90% in 2009.
  4. joes_2868 posted on 03/11/2013 10:41 AM
    Ron_26: So true! Take all 59 B.C. school districts for an example.
    Total remittance in one year to the Canada Revenue Agency, that is all income tax deductions, CPP, both employer and employee portions, and UIC, both employer and employee portions, was $233,079,442. This was for total school board employees in the province.
    Yet the amount that was paid to the Teachers Pension Fun was $337,804,545.
    $104,725,123 more than the total to the Canada Revenue Agency.
    Pension for teacher contributions is about 9% from a teachers salary paid by the teachers and about 12% from the employer which is the B.C. taxpayer
    There are two unions that are paying Moe Sihota's salary at $72,000 per year. Maybe they should stop Moe's salary as the position is supposed to be by volunteer.

    This is a negative side. The positive side is that because of unions, eveybody today benefits from its accomplishments. People employed never belonging to a union now enjoy employment benefits.
    All people that work on a salary, a lot in management positions all have benefits today that are the result of union accomplishments over the years.

    Both the positive and negative points.
  5. speakup posted on 03/11/2013 10:59 AM
    NOT a Union member or supporter in most cases -
    (ie:BCTF ESPECIALLY!!!!!)
    but SOMEBODY has to stick up for Canadian workers
    If NOT our OWN Governement then WHO?????
    That is NUTS that the Unions have to fight for us
    and our OWN Governments kisses Asian Azz???
    What is up with that?
    Who is driving this cart?
    Is it Asian back room in your pocket deals?
    WHY is NO ONE else protecting Canadians?

    Be aware - this is ONLY the beginning......
    Close this door and lock all others!!!!
    1. Ron_26 posted on 03/11/2013 11:06 AM
      @speakup No-show Dix isn't helping. Or Sterk and Cummins for that matter.
    2. DougB_25 posted on 03/11/2013 12:50 PM
      @speakup They are not fighing for us,my friend.They are fighting for higher wages for themselves.By limiting the supply of workers in general,the can force comapnies into a bidding war for the few that are available.Now that may sound nice if you are a worker who wants a raise.But if your union gets you a job as a non skilled labourer,with more than $30 per hour,plus benefits, plus pension,for just sweeping floors,they are extorting more than fair market value from your employer,and your job will eventually just disappear.
      In a global market,Canada my well be able to pay a bit more than many other nations.But if we pay to much,and our taxes are to high,our companies cannot compete,and our jobs go somewhere else.No one on planet earth invests anything if there is no potential to make a profit. I doubt you would either.But you do seem to like being generous with other people's money.
  6. joes_2868 posted on 03/11/2013 11:59 AM
    A reader awhile back, said that he did a roofing job for Moe Sihota. He thought it was kind of funny because he was non union.
  7. Brian WA posted on 03/11/2013 12:23 PM
    I thought the Unions would have a Legal team that would fall all over themselves to fight the injustice that is being inflicted on their Brothers and Sisters in the mining industry . To charge $200,000 for a couple of letters and a application of sorts Just goes to show you that nothing about this fight is about justice for workers but all about cash for the firm !!! If it is so important to the Union Lawyers, they should supply their ongoing expertise for nothing .
  8. DougB_25 posted on 03/11/2013 12:37 PM
    On this issues the unions are blowing smoke.Or maybe smoking the wrong tobacco.For one thing,a labour shortage,or even a perceived shortages is a strategy to get pay raises for their members.They start a bidding war by limiting the number of people ready,willing,and able to take these jobs.I am not,nor have I ever been a member if the NDP.But I did hear former Premier Mike Harcourt on radio last week.Even he talked about his travels around BC,and the serious shortage of people to fill the jobs that need to be done.
    Now I ask you,if there was not something to these shortages,would a respected NDPer like Mike Harcourt not be standing with the unions,as opposed to pointing out that these shortages are real?? He went out of his way to visit these communities involved,and more specifically the mining communities.
    Yes folks.There are unemployed in BC.But not many.Of those many do not want to work.Others won't go where the jobs are.Still others have no skills to offer.
    Get real people.This whole argument is being manufactured by our public sector unions.Do some real research,and you will see that for yourself.This is all about electing the NDP this spring.The truth is the last thing our public sector unions are worried about.They want acccess to our wallets,and the NDP is how they get it.That was the case in the 70's.It was the case in the 90's.And it's just as true today.
  9. traza1 posted on 03/11/2013 12:56 PM
    I have never needed to be a member of any union, but have always recognized their importance to the welfare of workers in general.
    I agree that if not for the unions we would all be working at the mercy of the employer, although there are some excellent none union employers out there, there are just as many who would be unfair if not for the strong labour laws and for that we have to give credit to the constant lobbying of the unions over the past 100 years, there is just as much greed in today world as there was hundred years ago, like them or not unions are needed. I will be contributing to this cause.
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