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NDP say AG can still provide audit despite court ruling
VICTORIA/CKNW(AM980)
Liza Yuzda | Email news tips to liza@cknw.com
1/29/2013

BC's Auditor General may have been halted in his mission to shed light on the province's six-million-dollar legal payout related to the BC Rail scandal.
 
But the NDP says that doesn't mean he still can't provide a good audit as to why taxpayers were forced to pickup the tab for the two former Liberal staffers who pleaded guilty in the affair.
 
"The mere fact he's lost the court decision today doesn't mean he won't or can't complete his audit."

Justice Critic Leonard Krog says people still want to hear what John Doyle has to say.
 
He adds he still gets people asking for assurance that the NDP will hold a public inquiry into privatization of the rail line, if elected this spring.
 
However, Krog says including the payout will depend on what Doyle finds.
 
Doyle himself has yet to comment on the court ruling.

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  1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/29/2013 08:52 PM
    What is it that Risky Clark does not want us to know? The NDP with Dix will call for a public inquiry and finally we will find out what risky Clark does not want the BC taxpayers to know.Risky trying to avoid release of this information because it will hurt her chance of getting elected.Go Dix go.
  2. StephenG_3 posted on 01/29/2013 08:54 PM
    Ancient history that frankly is a waste if time and taxpayers money. The railway was sold, it is gone, the story is over. I do not want further tax dollars spent on any further matters on this issue.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/29/2013 09:09 PM
      @StephenG_3 We as BC taxpayers must know what risky Clark does not want us to know.I smell some very rotten fish.
    2. commonsense posted on 01/29/2013 11:11 PM
      @StephenG_3 An audit will not bring back BC Rail. And if Christy is innocent, what good will this audit do?
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  3. taxed to death posted on 01/29/2013 08:57 PM
    Stay tuned folks.....Tsakumis is on the verge of releasing significant documentation that will as he puts it will "blow this thing wide open" ....if you know Tsakumis you don't get on his bad side, he's a fearless work horse that's fair, but, gets the job done....
  4. joes_2868 posted on 01/29/2013 09:06 PM
    bctaxpayer: Gordon Campbell promised if elected, he would have an inquiry into the B.C. fast cat ferry blunder of Glen Clark's NDP government.
    Glen Clark had a board of directors, including Jack Munro, that he appointed to this fast cat ferry project, all friends of his and they collected some nice money from the taxpayers. Typical NDP corruption and labour unions.
    Gordon was elected and when he tried to start and get on with the inquiry he found that it was too costly to the taxpayers.
    You bctaxpayer, are so blind. If Adrian Dix is elected to take over the taxpayer's cheque book, then the same thing will happen with the B.C. rail payout.
    Dix will have to annouce as Campbell did, that an inquiry will be too costly to the taxpayers.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/29/2013 09:13 PM
      @joes_2868 You are as corrupt as that corrupt gordo Scambell was.Risky is hiding something that she owes not want us to know.But Dix will find out.Go Dix go.
    2. taxed to death posted on 01/30/2013 05:51 AM
      @joes_2868 I'd bet you were just dying for that inquiry as well. But the drunk
      Didn't come through....he was too busy lining his own pockets with tax payer money....having said that, you should understand why we want and demand an inquiry into this smelly payout. Please tell the readers why bubble but snookie won't release all the documents if there is nothing to hide....joe this is a subject you know nothing about.....go read and see all the corruption of the Clarke government at Tsakumis's web page.....Clarke was highly involved and you will soon learn that the AG will bring these criminals down before the election. And don't forget Clarke has another upcoming court date to determine if she was in a conflict of interest so this is far from over.......
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  5. commonsense posted on 01/29/2013 11:44 PM
    As far as I see it, he has no further documents. He can do what he can, but he has stalled.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/30/2013 07:18 AM
      @commonsense We all look forward to seeing and hearing risky Clark on the stand before a judge and jury ,that will make headline news across Canada.We must get to the bottom of this BC Rail corruption scandal that risky and corrupt Scambell were involved in.
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  6. HUGH F posted on 01/30/2013 08:05 AM
    I find it incredible that some of the Liberal faithful don't want this to see sunlight. If someone broke into your home and stole something wouldn't you want them arrested and charged , even if it was years later? They remind me of a cat, after doing their business in the litter box, furiously covering up the poo with the litter available. Investigate thoroughly and charge ALL of them if there's anything amiss to the fullest extent of the law. White collar crime is no different than a bank robber, but society seems to go soft on this brand of thieving bastards..
    1. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 08:29 AM
      @HUGH F Exactly, no one would rehire a thief to manage their finances. Yet, no one wants to find out whether the Liberals have governed our finances with integrity.

      Surely the manner in which a government behaved in the past is an indicator of their future intention.
    2. DenisH_5947 posted on 01/30/2013 10:30 AM
      @HUGH F I agree with HUGH F that we need to get to the bottom of this, for the reasons he specifies. By this same logic, we should also proceed with the Fast Cat inquiry that Campbell decided was too expensive (see joes_2868 post above). There should be no statute of limitations for people on the public purse.
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  7. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 08:09 AM
    StephenG_3 wrongdoers never want the past to be examined, - ASK ANY POLICE OFFICER - yet we spend thousands of dollars prosecuting others to get at the truth!

    WHY DO LIBERALS WANT TO A QUESTIONABLE PAST?
    1. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 08:10 AM
      @JD_9814 WHY DO LIBERALS WANT TO HIDE A QUESTIONABLE PAST?
  8. LorAx posted on 01/30/2013 08:38 AM
    I agree, there has been too much secrecy surrounding public concern surround the BC Rail sale.

    In my opinion, payment of Legal fees for Basi Virk are unjustificable. Placing a gag order on them as a condition of payment is offensive, and efforts to frustrate production of documents during the Basi Virk trial to defence lawyers coupled with opposition to production of documents to the A/G on technical grounds, should be a concern to everyone in BC.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/30/2013 09:03 AM
      @LorAx It is plain to see that the gag order and the 6 Million $$$$$$ pay off is for the basi - verk jerks to keep some Very Important Infirmation from the Public. You must remember Basi verk were employed by risky Clark and the BC lie beral party. So what are these Two criminals withholding fo us ???????
  9. joes_2868 posted on 01/30/2013 09:16 AM
    bctaxpayer: U N B E L I E V A B L E ! Basi and Virk were already collecting B.C. taxpayer pay cheques when the Liberals won government in 2001.
    They were also employed under the NDP government.
    Civil servants do not lose their jobs just because a new government is elected. The only ones that do if it happens are deputy ministers.
    That is rare also because these deputy ministers know the job better than the elected MLA'S.
    1. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 09:21 AM
      @joes_2868 You are wrong, Basi Virk are Liberal insiders
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  10. joes_2868 posted on 01/30/2013 09:17 AM
    bctaxpayer: Your line of commenting can only come from a NDP'er!
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 01/30/2013 09:28 AM
      @joes_2868 What amazes me how the BC lieberal members do not want to hear that the party that they stand for is indeed CORRUPT.You Joes 2868 are one of many.
    2. bctaxpayer posted on 01/30/2013 09:28 AM
      @joes_2868 What amazes me how the BC lieberal members do not want to hear that the party that they stand for is indeed CORRUPT.You Joes 2868 are one of many.
  11. joes_2868 posted on 01/30/2013 10:27 AM
    JD_9814: From what I can find so far in my research is that Dave Basi was already a government employee and given a promotion by Gary Collins to become a ministerial aide.
    I do not want to start an arguement, but I will continue researching and maybe you can do the same and we can combine our findings to come to an answer.
    1. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 10:43 AM
      @joes_2868 Once elevated to ministerial aides they leave the public service and become loyal to the Minister who appointed them. It is a well known fact that Ministers only appoint loyal supporters, and hence the term "Ministerial Aide". Without doubt they were Liberal insiders
  12. LenG_5722 posted on 01/30/2013 11:14 AM
    All of you should go back and read this chain or replies. It gives me a headache just to read it. You are all so bitter - probably from your negative attitudes and the ulcers growing in your guts. Smile once in awhile. Laugh a bit. Grow up and write something positive for a change.
    1. MaxM_8699 posted on 01/30/2013 11:58 AM
      @LenG_5722 Here's something positive: If you rent a house, you are not entitled to sell the stove or the carport. You are a CARETAKER of the property. The BC Liberals when elected became entrusted with looking after the assets of British Columbia, as ALL governments are. They have only acted like Third World criminals taking whatever they can for themselves. There are so many people in BC who believe there must be bribery and personal greed and corruption involved when you betray the people you are supposed to be looking out for. The POSITIVELY need to be found out and brought to justice.
  13. Jartann posted on 01/30/2013 11:27 AM
    It makes little sense to me to keep investigating the payment of $6 Million-so lets spend $20 million to figure out whay they spent $6 million. Those bitter about this are angry because they opposed the privatization of BC Rail-and if they had it their way they would nationalize just about everything. The party involved in this was the bidder that failed. They were probably not even close as they were a dark horse outside candidate. There is not one molecule of evidence that any other wrong doing took place. If the legal fees and the reasons for them are subject to lawyer client privilege, then that is ball game over and it would be unethical of anyone to release the information

    The problem here is that government, regardless of the party, rarely handles anything well. So the only solution is to downsize govenrment, which most people oppose. Hopeless to keep whining about this.
    1. HUGH F posted on 01/30/2013 11:45 AM
      @Jartann So if justice is expensive, it's best to turn your head the other way. What utter nonsense Jarts- What's your address so I can come over and steal your stuff because it would cost too much to prosecute me. Utter bullspit Sonny.
  14. MaxM_8699 posted on 01/30/2013 11:39 AM
    Do we allow people to get away with criminal activity because 'the story is over'? NO. If you are going to sell OUR railroad, that did NOT belong to the Liberal party, then you might get caught someday and face justice. There are MANY people who believe something happened here that has implications that need answering. Stopping a trial in progress so the truth will not be revealed, and expecting we taxpayers to pay 6 MILLION dollars for the perps needs to be answered.
    I hope Doyle and Krog and Dix and Tsakumis and van Dongen will not shirk their duties and force this to go to an inquiry and then a trial. You can run to England, but you cannot hide. And Christy Clark needs to answer for her cover-up of this crime. Doesn't matter if ir was 1 or 10 years ago, crimes must not go unpunished.
    1. HJDH posted on 01/30/2013 12:42 PM
      @MaxM_8699 I just want to clarify something in your post. The Liberal Government sold BC Rail, not the Liberal Party. The Benefits derived were received by the people of this Province. The objection to the sale is the Process. The public bidding process is alleged to have been influenced by insiders and as a result, the best price was not obtained. Basi Virk were instrumental in disclosing confidential information to bidders. The question is who else was involved?

      Bill Goode keeps saying that the issue has been fully investigated by the RCMP and there was no wrongdoing. The truth is that the RCMP investigate for criminal activity, not civl wrongs, like breach of fiduciary duty. Criminal investigations have a higher threthold for conviction and civil cases.

      The only way the truth can come out is through a public inquiry.
    2. bctaxpayer posted on 01/30/2013 07:55 PM
      @MaxM_8699 Well said.
  15. HJDH posted on 01/30/2013 12:15 PM
    Jartann, Liberals spend $ 15,000,000 on self- serving advertising, does that make sense to you at a time of restraint? They spend $6,000,000 to shut down a trial which promised to disclose official dealing with BC Rail, does that make sense to you?, They agreed to house arrest for Basi Virk if they plead guilty,- does that make sense to you. They imposed a gag order on Basi Virk, which prevented them from discussing the case – what are they afraid of?

    There may not be any direct evidence, primarly because of the lack of openess and successful efforts to suppress evidence, but there does exist circumstantial evidence from which the public has drawn the inference of wrong doing in office. People have called for an inquiry or also for Clark to sue tkumus for defamation. The Liberals do nothing. Why? Are you not concerned? Is there anything which would concern you?
  16. HJDH posted on 01/30/2013 12:18 PM
    Jartann, Liberals spend $ 15,000,000 on self- serving advertising, does that make sense to you at a time of restraint? They spend $6,000,000 to shut down a trial which promised to disclose official dealing with BC Rail, does that make sense to you?, They agreed to house arrest for Basi Virk if they plead guilty,- does that make sense to you. They imposed a gag order on Basi Virk, which prevented them from discussing the case – what are they afraid of?

    There may not be any direct evidence, primarly because of the lack of openess and successful efforts to suppress evidence, but there does exist circumstantial evidence from which the public has drawn the inference of wrong doing in office. People have called for an inquiry or also for Clark to sue tkumus for defamation. The Liberals do nothing. Why? Are you not concerned? Is there anything which would concern you?
  17. HJDH posted on 01/30/2013 12:20 PM
    Apologies for the unintentional 2nd post
  18. joes_2868 posted on 01/30/2013 12:45 PM
    JD_9814: Thank you.
    1. JD_9814 posted on 01/30/2013 06:17 PM
      @joes_2868 you are most welcome.
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