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Liberals and NDP spar over where the blame lies after Port Mann crashes
VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
Shane Woodford | Email news tips to shane.woodford@corusent.com
1/4/2013

BC's Transportation minister has responded to Thursday mornings mayhem on the Port Mann bridge with an emailed statement.

 

Mary Polak lays the blame for some 40 cars crashing on the icy bridge surface on the weather and the maintenance contractor.

 

Polak says the contractor has been told to increase de-icing to make sure there is no repeat of the icy mess.

 

She says the Port Mann itself is not to blame.

 

Polak says the bridge design is sound and the materials used on the road surface is also not at fault.

 

She suggests drivers slow down and respect winter driving conditions.

 

Polak also says she is proud of the Port Mann  bridge for making quote "a positive difference in lives everyday."

 

Meanwhile the NDP's Transportation critic says the province is falling short of making sure the new Port Mann bridge is safe for use.

 

Harry Bains says drivers deserve better than a bridge that seems to have been built without factoring in Metro Vancouver weather conditions.

               

"Minimum they expect from this government and the bridge operators is a safe bridge and them admitting and apologizing for not doing proper de-icing is not acceptable. I think it is the responsibility of the government and this Minister to make sure that this bridge is safe for all weather conditions."

 

Bains says the Liberals were quick to flock to the span for photo op after photo op when it was being built.

 

"When it was one third built, it was half built, three quarters built, and now time comes for accountability and responsibility they are pointing fingers or running away. I think the taxpayers after spending three point three billion dollars they expect that the bridge is safe under all weather conditions."

 

Bains says the Port Mann has faced two winter tests in the last month and it has failed twice.

 

He says the minister should also be working with the bridge operators to mitigate costs to motorists after the ice caused crashes on the bridge.


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  1. Grrrrr snap posted on 01/04/2013 04:46 AM
    i agree with the minister.The bridge is fantastic.Road maintenace severely dropped the ball on this one.AND I can also mention a few other places that highway maintennace has totally screwed the driving public and OUR truckers trying to get our products safely too their customers.Check out Drive BC once in awhile.I'm on the road as a safety enforcement officier for our company constantly! Highway #5,#3 and the 97C are NEVER kept in safe conditions,Please sir can I pay more!!
    1. geetee posted on 01/04/2013 09:57 AM
      @Grrrrr snap Couldn't agree more. Having lived in the interior for 5 years I have seen some deplorable road conditions. The road contractors have a set budget and do their best to not spend it to pad thier own bank accounts. I had more than one conversation with the local road maintenance contractor and a few leters to the minister in charge. It did seem to make a difference for a while ...
    2. Fate posted on 01/05/2013 11:07 AM
      @Grrrrr snap Ya, but hey, we have the lowest personal taxes in the country (according to liberals) so it's all good right?
  2. bctaxpayer posted on 01/04/2013 07:14 AM
    There is no one other than risky Clark and incompetent BC lie beral party.A sure sign that this party is not suited to govern.Risky and her team hired all these responsible for bridge maintenance.POOR showing of the BC lie berals.Time to show them the door.
    1. AnneH_4 posted on 01/04/2013 12:19 PM
      @bctaxpayer I dont think Clark was part of the decision making process --- before her time?
  3. ChrisM_18 posted on 01/04/2013 07:35 AM
    The NDP do themselves a disservice by having Harry Bains speak on their behalf . Remember the saying about some village is short an idiot ? ...
    1. commonsense posted on 01/04/2013 08:48 AM
      @ChrisM_18 When asked what he would do with tolls in BC, he said he would have that discussion with Translink to consider them for managing the fares. I think he missed the news feeds and the public's perception of translink.
    2. Ken280 posted on 01/04/2013 10:49 AM
      @ChrisM_18 Chris, anyone who speaks from the opposition you would disagree! you know you do the liberal spin! all the time and say you are not Liberal,what a joke!
  4. lg_3045 posted on 01/04/2013 08:19 AM
    here's the thing - this is a 'worker's bridge' - either for thoese who cannot afford to live closer to work, or for the other half, myself included, who think Vancouver is a giant cesspool full of illiterate snobs. This would NEVER happen on a brand new bridge built anywhere in Vancouver, can you imagine, connecting precious North and West Van to downtown with a bridge that had no heated cables or deicing?
    1. ChrisM_18 posted on 01/04/2013 08:27 AM
      @lg_3045 Now now, there are even snobs in South Surrey and White Rock !
  5. howards_1187 posted on 01/04/2013 09:47 AM
    Is the New Port Mann the Liberal's Fast Ferry?
    1. Ron_26 posted on 01/04/2013 10:10 AM
      @howards_1187 Not even close.
    2. commonsense posted on 01/04/2013 10:12 AM
      @howards_1187 Not as poor managed and disastrous. But perhaps.

      Difference between the PM2 and the Fast Ferries is that the PM2 is actually being used.
  6. DeceitinDrugsD posted on 01/04/2013 10:07 AM
    It's a new bridge and people seem to think they can just
    go across at high speed, despite road conditions due to
    winter conditions.

    People need to slow down and proceed with caution.

    it's a bridge like any other bridge and winter conditions are
    winter conditions and it requires driving with due care and
    caution.

    Everyone is in a big hurry to go nowhere.

    You just cannot fly across the bridge in wet, icy conditions and
    not expect a possible accident.
    1. DeceitinDrugsD posted on 01/04/2013 10:12 AM
      @DeceitinDrugsD Having said that, I would hope that Maintenance workers
      ensured, they do everything they can to reduce risks of
      wet, icy road conditions.

      A combination of non-maintained roads and people travelling
      across the bridge at high speed is a recipe for acidents.
  7. Ron_26 posted on 01/04/2013 10:09 AM
    Good grief. What a stupid debate. Greater Vancouver has a handful of treacherous days annually. A heated bridge would make us all a laughing stock. It should have been salted, but really, the fog froze on the deck around 6 am as the accidents occurred. How about when it's slippery and foggy, slow down, leave more room and drive appropriately?
    Build a new house and as deficiencies are found (and they usually are), fix them. Period.
    1. BY posted on 01/04/2013 04:29 PM
      @Ron_26 Ron. Why would a heated bridge make 'Us all a laughing stock"???When the Knight St. bridge opened in January of 1974 it had heating cables in the deck. I don't remember anybody laughing at Us".
  8. Ken280 posted on 01/04/2013 10:28 AM
    To defend the Government about defects that should have been detected while being built! The Government should have had a project manager that was involved from day one! So if they had this consultation someone said do not put in the heat coils.Do you remember the flack about the Fast Cats going on for the last 20yrs+ It seems that the Liberals for some out there can do no wrong! As for maintenance of highways were privatized 25yrs ago and now the cost cutting for these contractors are keep the trucks tied up to save money! They bid to low and can't do their duties! It was the Socreds now the same party under the name Liberals that brought this mess to our hyws, before the Government looked after the hyws in BC and it was looked after very well and now look at the mess everywhere in BC.
    1. Ron_26 posted on 01/04/2013 11:12 AM
      @Ken280 Absolutely right on one point. Highways were much better maintained under BC Highways. Profit/loss shouldn't be a factor with public safety. This is one job where privatization was a definite mistake.
  9. speakup posted on 01/04/2013 12:06 PM
    EXCUSES THAT FIT THE NEED:

    1) EXCUSE NO.1
    When PMKILLER Bridge barfed ice/snow onto innocent hostage toll payers:

    "The cars were STOPPED?SLOWED DOWN - so the harmonics were
    not working to remove the ice/snow from cables"

    2) EXCUSE NO.2
    When the PMKILLER Bridge iced up - even though NO OTHER bridges in the province of bridges did the same:

    "The cars were moving TOO FAST - as opposed to slower when the
    OLD SLOW bridge was in place"

    So what is it - TOO FAST or TOO SLOW?
    Think FAST - LIE large!

    I propose a NEW NAME for this AWESOME KILLER BRIDGE

    Bridge of a BILLION LIES!
  10. speakup posted on 01/04/2013 12:08 PM
    Thanx Mary

    This should be enough evidence for ICBC and insured motorist
    Mary (quite CONTRARY) clearly states who is to balme
    "Mary Polak lays the blame for some 40 cars crashing on the icy bridge surface on the weather and the maintenance contractor."

    Can't sue the weather (or can you??)
    Looksliek the contrator better lawyer up!! OOOPS
  11. speakup posted on 01/04/2013 12:24 PM
    Mary mary........this is UNacceptable!!!!

    what happened to your repeating that same statment last week??
    and waggin your Liberal Fiberal Finger?

    You are a classic Liberal Liar
    You lied about living in langley -(led by other liars especially Richie Richfat) just to get elected - and now you know no other way.

    Mary - this and YOU are highly UNACCEPTABLE!
  12. speakup posted on 01/04/2013 12:25 PM
    IMPORTANT ALERT TO ALL DRIVERS OF BC

    REFUSE TOLLS
    AND
    STARVE OUT THE TROLLS!

    stick together or let the Killer Bridge take you down
    Drive to stay alive!
  13. AldinaI posted on 01/04/2013 04:23 PM
    I heard on CKNW that the drivers on PM2 were driving well over the speed limit despite the fog and black ice.

    The way I see it, the PM2 was a waste of taxpayers' money. Keep the old bridge, bring in busses to get some commuters out of their cars, and we'd have saved a lot of money.

    Liberals' Legacy=wasted money on:

    1. the new Port Mann bridge (aka the "fair weather bridge") and

    2. the BC Place new roof (I call it "Pricks" because of the roof's appearance and of the Liberals who decided that a partial roof opening and a leaking roof was worth half a billion dollars of our money)
  14. bctaxpayer posted on 01/05/2013 07:40 AM
    Where is risky Clark the Photo Op queen and Polac on the Port Mann taking photo's of there with damaged cars for ice filling and ice on the bridge,risky we are Waiting. These would be great photo's for the next election,eh.
  15. Giepher posted on 01/06/2013 05:02 PM
    I get a real kick out of NDP critic Harry Bains in suggesting dat all da BC Lieberals r bout is photo ops - not dat he's wrong - but look wat's calling da kettle black; Harry Bains only comes out of hiding wen he can get his mug in da news. He dosen' even respond to his constituents w/o da use of age & ethnic supporter bias. Da Port Mann bridge has been a gong show rite from da start, not 2 different den da Cambie cut & cover fiasco. Harry Bains did very little 2 bring deez issues 2 da publics attn. Harry Bains is just as bad as Mayor Diane Watts and Mayor Peter Fastspender, all day want 2 do is spend money we don't hav & adopt da BC Lieberal 5-D philisophy; Delay, Deny, Deflect, Deceipt and Disengenuous as a way of doing business. Basically all talk no action. Der is a gov delay in finding out da root cause of da Port Mann debackle in handling simple winter conditions, da gov is denying any responsiblity 4 a bad design & crossing choice, trying 2 deflect it onto da unsuspecting Road Maintenence Contractor, being deceitfull in supplying erroneous information and being disengenuous with da driving public bout da safety of dis overly touted crossing. Da driving habits r only but a sympthom of ICBC and da way it handles it's use of da 5-D's and da maintenance contractor is caught between a rock and a hard spot, cause day can't say anyting bout da gov if day want 2 keep da contract, but day were not given any info on how 2 deal with da newest white elephant thrust on dem by out irresponsible gov - all cause da gov needed 2 bring in da project "on time & on budget". Who no's wat skuldugary da BC Lieberals cut outta da Prt Mann crossing 2 acheive der selfish goals - public safety cud not hav been der hiest priority - dats' 4 sure - all day've built is da worlds biggest & most expensive parking lot. Maybe da NDP can turn it into scrap like da BC Lieberals did wit da fast ferries and use da material 2 build a bridge over 2 Vanc Isle; so we can get rid of dem dam bottomless pit ferries. We can use da off-shore built ferries as footings 4 da new bridge - da east coast did it why can't we?
  16. joes_2868 posted on 01/07/2013 02:21 PM
    Remember that when the highways department was privatized, Mainroad Contracting was all formed by former BCGEU employees. They formed their own company to save their jobs.
    So don't say that we have to go back to a government highways department.
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