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UPDATED: Port Mann claims climbing
VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
CKNW News Staff | Email news tips to nwnews@cknw.com
12/20/2012

First we were told it was five, then 60, now ICBC is reporting 195 vehicles were damaged when chunks of ice fell from support cables on the Port Mann Bridge.

Adam Grossman with ICBC says they don't expect too many more claims to trickle in now, and that number could go down as they notice duplicate claims or those unrelated to Wednesday's incident.

Many drivers say the new bridge failed its first test in the snow, but Mike Proudfoot, C-E-O of the Transportation Investment Corporation, the crown corporation responsible for the Port Mann insists the storm was "severe."

"It was a micro-climate kind of situation where we had some freeze-thaw cycles."

Speaking with CKNW's Mike Smyth, Proudfoot says there's a chance the bridge will have to be closed again if it snows in the near future.

As for the long term:

"We'll be looking at solutions that may be available to assure this doesn't happen again.  That could be the heated cables, there's other methods such as vibrations... there's chemical treatments."

Sources have told CKNW the contractor turned down the idea of installing heated cables, Proudfoot says:"That's nothing that I'm familiar with."

Meanwhile, the Transporation Investment Corporation is waving the toll for anyone who drove the Port Mann between 10am and 6pm yesterday, and it will pay the deductable for the damaged vehicles.


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  1. NeilWH posted on 12/20/2012 11:24 AM
    Any extra expense should be deducted from Mr. Proudfoots salary for poor performance as an executive.
  2. commonsense posted on 12/20/2012 11:33 AM
    I am curious to know how many of them are scams though. Previous damage that drivers are trying to claim.
    1. Is_it_just_me posted on 12/20/2012 12:05 PM
      @commonsense You can bet ICBC will be requesting records of the crossing from TREO to prevent this. But you are right in that there will be a bunch of bogus claims.
  3. joes_2868 posted on 12/20/2012 12:43 PM
    is_it_just_me: No, B.C. taxpayers, dishonest? I guess the same one's that complain about the government. Double standards once again.
    1. Ken280 posted on 12/20/2012 05:34 PM
      @joes_2868 well we know you are dishonest! thumper Joe!
    2. insite posted on 12/22/2012 01:18 PM
      @joes_2868 According to Saturday Vancouver Sun, driver claims to have been hit by falling ice just as he passed the CREST of the Alex Fraser Bridge. Probably true but where did it come from?



      Clearly a bogus claim, if he blames it on the bridge. At the crest, meaning mid-span, the support cables are so close to the deck that ice could not possibly fall on a vehicle unless there was a cross wind of hurricane strength.


      In my mind, the most likely source where ice could fall is at the two towers which have a cross beam tying them together as a stability measure.

      Therefore, his claim of suffering damage, if not bogus, originated from a passing high vehicle such as a bus or container load or a semi. Those vehicles are frequently covered with ice and snow.


      People should get real when they whine. In this case, they should check out if their srory is consistent with the laws of gravity. They should utilize their cognitive abilities.......
  4. speakup posted on 12/20/2012 12:51 PM
    Send it back!
    We don't want it anymore!
    Buyers remorse? - should kick in here!
    It a lemon - and we can't even make lemonade with it!
    Sue! Mental and emotional anxiety for BC drivers!
    Heads should roll - hold onto your hat Mr Proudfoot!

    BC's newest museum attraction
    - BIG deals that went BAD -
    PMB and BCPlace - just to name 2 most recent - I know the list is endless

    Maybe a whole College program
    HOW to build bogus business plans and such in entire Provinces 101!
    Stay tune for 102 - or have they already spent the paycheques and retired?

    All you need is one good SCAM! BA-BAM!
    Merry Christmas BC - from the TROLLS that RULE your Province
    1. speakup posted on 12/20/2012 12:53 PM
      @speakup sorry typo - I meant SUCK IN entire Provinces
  5. DanS_3728 posted on 12/20/2012 01:13 PM
    Really, this Crown Corporation will pay the deductible - Using tax payers money no doubt - What a joke. Proutfoot should foot the bill from his own pocket.
    1. speakup posted on 12/20/2012 01:18 PM
      @DanS_3728 great minds think alike!
      YES Proudfoot - pony up buddy!
  6. speakup posted on 12/20/2012 01:17 PM
    THEY?? THEY??? will PAY the deductible??
    That is nice of THEM!

    BTW - those DOLLARS THEY are using to be sooooo nice
    BELONG to US - the STUPID TAX PAYING TROLL DOLLS that we are!

    Unreal!
    NO MATTER WHAT - we idiots pay for their BAD BUSINESS SENSE!
    it just never stops!

    Time to disolve ALL TROLLS in BC
  7. joes_2868 posted on 12/20/2012 05:01 PM
    STOP BLOWING GASKETS! WHEN THE DUST SETTLES, THE CONTRACTOR WILL PAY THE DEDUCTIBLES THROUGH THEIR INSURANCE JUST LIKE THEY DID WITH 5000 CLAIMS RE THE SEALCOATING ON THE DUNCAN TO LAKE COWICHAN HIGHWAY THAT DIDNOT STICK PROPERLY.
    IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I WAS I SCHOOL AND SOME OF THESE COMMENTS SOUND JUST LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL DAYS. TOTALLY UNBELIEVABLE!
    1. Ken280 posted on 12/20/2012 05:42 PM
      @joes_2868 Who is blowing gaskets, if you were my blogger I would fired your Grouse a*s. CC with send you to bed without the crispies,Thumper Joe, the grouse in heat.The trouble shooter for the Liberals. heh heh! so funny, school you mean to say you went? The bridge sucks Thumper! Go NDP Go!
    2. speakup posted on 12/21/2012 01:01 PM
      @joes_2868 guess what gasket head!
      Subrogation COSTS money
      and ONLY happens when FAULT is PROVEN
      Contracctor says they did what the TROLLS wanted!
      So now what?
      Maybe YOU can cover the deductibles!
  8. MichaelD_10 posted on 12/20/2012 05:39 PM
    People seem not to see that their opinion of the world is also a confession of character. Ralph Waldo Emerson
    1. Ken280 posted on 12/20/2012 05:45 PM
      @MichaelD_10 copy and paste yada,yada! Are you a copy or a paste?
  9. joes_2868 posted on 12/21/2012 02:35 PM
    Ken280: The readers consultant with a briefcase 50 miles away from home. Now us readers know how you raised your kids when they were young. Totally, unbelievable? Does Adrian know about that part of you?
    1. bhappy posted on 12/22/2012 02:12 AM
      @joes_2868 Joes...not sure why you're so intimidated by Ken, which I think quite frankly is funny.....but if I could change the subject for a minute....can you do that?
      Would you mind sharing with the participants of this site, why your friends in Victoria can't stay in the message BOX today? One Minute Polak says, we're going to SUE and then she says later in the afternoon, "the parties are exploring SOLUTIONS..... that is COLD COMFORT to the TAXPAYERS who have thru no fault of their own had their lives turned upside down because of this.
      Seeing that you are such a PLAYER for Christie, do ya think you could speak to her about this.....or do they not live in the correct RIDING??????
  10. joes_2868 posted on 12/22/2012 09:37 AM
    bhappy: Me intimated by Ken? Review and read our replies to each other. Notice how his temper exists in his replies and mine are just easy going. You NDP'er's all seem to be on damage control.
    Please tell the readers if the NDP is so great why is the following:

    B.C. first NDP government of Dave Barrett lasted one term.

    The second term government of the NDP government of Glen Clark only won re-election by 3 seats.

    The provincial Alberta legislature has only 4 NDP MLA's.

    In the last Saskatchewan provincial election, the NDP the official opposition party had 20 seats and after the election had 9 seats. Why did the taxpayers destroy them when they were the opposition party in the election battle?

    Saskatchewan was always known as NDP country of Tommy Douglas and today Saskatchewan does not have one elected federal NDP member.

    Why did Bob Rae, NDP premier in Ontario only last one term?

    Why is the NDP in Ontario the third party? It has 17 NDP MLA's.

    Why is there no NDP MLA's in Quebec, New Brunswick, and Prince Edward Island?

    Why is there only 5 NDP MLA's in Newfoundland?

    Why is the NDP government in Nova Scotia going back to opposition status in the next provincial election?

    Why should the B.C. taxpayers vote in a NDP government when in fact, they would be voted out in May of 2017?

    And why would you NDP'ers once again complain about a new coalition government in May of 2017 having to take drastic measures of cleaning up a NDP mess?

    If you NDP'ers think the present Liberal government has to go, the NDP is not the anwer. Create another provincial party.

    And why are you NDP supporters allowing Adrian Dix to bring in Mr. Scandal man Brian Topp to be the NDP campaign manager?

    Please don't beat around the bush and give us readers your well thought out answers to the above without any propaganda. Ken280, the readers consultant, a man with a briefcase 50 miles away from home will thank you for this.
    1. Ken280 posted on 12/23/2012 05:52 PM
      @joes_2868 thumper you say temper haha! Oh! God you had another one of those brain f**ts.If you think for any moment that anyone could get an temper listening to you?Listen up, you are caught up in this boggers post and trying to make points for your Christy and the Liberals I have never had so much fun listening to you Liberals,to see how you would love no unions and people making peanuts because some of you are retired commenting here and you want to opt out of education and have enough money for your private Medical and schools. You have made your nest eggs and you do not care if anyone else does.I do and I would love to see the work back like in the 60's& 70's, the new players on the block would like it also but they do not want people making any money just for the managers and bonus for the CEO's even when they drive the company to bankruptcy so they can collect on take over tax credits and make more money! The tax cuts in BC has hurt us in BC just like when Paul Martins Liberals cuts hurt us in the 90's.Why? Do we have to keep hurting like this in BC or Canada we are a rich province but we have a large working poor population and these people are educated as well just no Jobs created for them! why?Money& greed that's why!
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