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UPDATES: Mayors give province a deadline for Translink funding solutions
BURNABY/CKNW (AM980)
CKNW News Staff | Email news tips to nwnews@cknw.com
10/18/2012

The Mayors Council for Translink has voted to pass the "hot potato" issue of transit funding back to the provincial government.

A motion tabled by Vancouver Mayor Gregor Robertson passed, setting a hard deadline of February 28th for the province to help solve transit funding woes.

Robertson says it also rules out any new property taxes to fund transit.
 
"What we said today is we will not contrubute any additional short-term property tax to tide Translink over for the next couple of years. It's fish or cut bait for the province. They need to provide the new funding tools by February 28th, or Translink is going to have to make some real changes in the service."

The motion also wants a ban on any transit service cuts and would oppose Translink selling of its capital assets.

Transportation Minister Mary Polak says she's sent a letter -- asking for a meeting with the Mayors Council.

"It was clear that the Mayors Council wanted two things: they wanted to have a meaningful role in setting the transit vision for Metro, and they wanted to have new funding tools to be able to pay for that. I've said yes to both of those."

Polak says she'll consider all funding models put forward by the mayors.


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  1. CosmicS posted on 10/18/2012 03:55 PM
    It's about time Translink looks a its funding as a budget and not a trough. People are fed up with the constant hand out for any excuse and no service south of the Fraser! Translink should look at the better than market share wages they give out.
  2. Blues posted on 10/18/2012 05:34 PM
    Better than market share wages? In what area are you speaking of CosmicS?
    1. RichardF_4221 posted on 10/18/2012 11:25 PM
      @Blues Likely he's talking about how much a transit driver makes compared to a school bus driver. Or worse, how much a transit supervisor or manager makes in comparison. Not a totally logically relationship, HOWEVER...when it comes to management being paid stupid wages compared to the private sector...could be a good case for money being thrown away.
  3. WilliamS_3961 posted on 10/18/2012 06:49 PM
    And what happens if the Feb. 28th "deadline" isn't met ?? Do the Mayors all hold their collective breaths until they turn purple ??
    1. RichardF_4221 posted on 10/18/2012 11:23 PM
      @WilliamS_3961 no, they're politicians. They just move the deadline forward to another date due to "new information received"
      That information is...they didn't practice holding their breath over Christmas and New Years, and just can't hold it that long.
    2. SalV posted on 10/19/2012 10:54 AM
      @WilliamS_3961 Ha Ha! They will get that hot potato tossed back by the professional potato handlers in Victoria. I don't see why the Province will want to get involved in providing more funding, specially without cutting costs and service levels
  4. brianp1950 posted on 10/18/2012 08:23 PM
    I am tired of being asked to continue to pay for things we cannot afford, why don't we use light rail, why can't we charge the users more for Transit? why do we need to have tolls on some bridges but not all routes like the sea to sky? why do we have to have a carbon tax when no other jurisdiction in North America has one? how come there are never roll backs or layoffs at Translink/Coast Mountain or any of the municipalities they just keep wanting more and more. Heir hands are in all my pockets now but I have nothing left to give!
  5. DavidSB posted on 10/18/2012 10:31 PM
    So now the mayors want to charge drivers for going from municipal zone to zone. They say they need this because people are buying fuel efficient cars to avoid the gas tax. Do they not see where their latest hair brained idea will get them? It is just like the ferries. If they raise prices on travel from district to district, they will just make people stay at home all the time and only cross municipal borders for necessary things. Look for your 'events' to lose patrons. Especially you Vancouver.

    You can also expect people to move out of the region which will eliminate the tax grab from them altogether. That will leave even less people to tax. Finally all you have left to pay the cross zone tolls will be workers and people who use their vehicles for work. This will encourage businesses to move out of the translink region(since many of their workers will be moving out anyway) and the tax you take from people who use their vehicles for work will be tax deductible so that gains the government nothing and will probably stifle economic growth. I'm sure we'll see more regional events located outside the translink region also.

    Do these people not see that if they go for zonal funding the same thing that happened to the gas tax will happen to the road pricing? If you give people the incentive to not do an activity by forcing unreasonable taxes they will move towards efficiency. You will lose all the benefits that you hoped to gain. By discouraging region to region travel you are stifling regional economic commerce and trade
    1. MichaelP_9269 posted on 10/19/2012 08:16 AM
      @DavidSB I suspect Vancouver will do just fine. We have very transit here. And that's I believe the point. TransLink aims to improve public transit across Metro Vancouver. Like south of the Fraser River. But all levels of govt need to step up and ensure that TransLink is adequately funded, The status quo is not working.
  6. RichardF_4221 posted on 10/18/2012 11:20 PM
    It's absolutely ludricous that the cities keep asking for more funding when the audit shows that translink just keeps throwing money away.I'm not willing to pay my Comox Valley tax payer money to support the idiots running the system in the lower mainland.Our system runs quite nicely here.If it doesn't the franchisee doesn't make money.It's that f-n simple!!!
  7. RichardF_4221 posted on 10/18/2012 11:28 PM
    Don't the cities have input on translink? Might be wrong. I'm not that connected with it. Seems to me though the cities in the lower mainland have representation on the board? Would be interesting to find out if that's true.
    1. MichaelP_9269 posted on 10/19/2012 08:14 AM
      @RichardF_4221 Richard there is info about TransLink's governance here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransLink_(British_Columbia)#Governance
  8. RichardF_4221 posted on 10/19/2012 08:33 AM
    So the mayors appoint the board, approve the plans, borrowing, and regional funding. But...it's the provincial government's fault. Nice.
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