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Updated: Experts say road pricing needed
BURNABY/CKNW (AM980)
Janet Brown | Email news tips to Janet
10/17/2012

Road pricing is the best way to pay for transit.

That's according to an international panel of transportation experts speaking to Metro Vancouver mayors.

The panel says the funding shortfall translink faces is not unique to our region.

It is a worldwide problem and sustainable, long term funding is what is needed.

The best and most equitable option they feel is road pricing, something Langley city mayor Peter Fassbender supports.

"......and so we're not just tolling bridges, we're looking at pricing throughout the region. User pay."

They say tolling certain infrastructure is unfair and relying on the gas tax to fund transit isn't sustainable either, with more fuel efficient vehicles on the road.

Upping property taxes doesn't work either.

They say that only turns people away from taking transit.

While Metro Vancouver mayors hear international experts warn against a property tax hike to fund transit the business community doesn't agree.

BC Chamber of Commerce President John Winter says they and the Vancouver Board of Trade want mayors to approve the temporary property tax increase.

Winter says it would buy the time needed to hammer out a long term transit funding strategy.

"Taxation sources are many and varied there has been much discussion in recent years about what the proper sources might be, what the balance ought to be, who pays, who doesn't, the reality is the taxpayer is going to pay in one form or another so it is up to our elected politicians to figure out the best way that, that can possibly happen."

But he admits the two year property tax hike is really just a band aid solution.

"It is a stop gap formula for sure but it is important that it be followed through upon at this stage to buy the time to really delve into what the right formula might be."

Winter says any transit reduction would add to clogged roads and increase costs for businesses.

Meanwhile Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts says she is not in favour of raising property taxes to help pay for transit

"Property taxes, that is not a sustainable revenue source and there is no correlation to the transportation system so like I said you know you either want good public policy or you want to play politics."

Metro Vancouver mayors will resume meetings tomorrow as they search for a solution to transit funding woes.


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  1. brianp1950 posted on 10/17/2012 05:58 PM
    sure, why not, lets have more taxes on fuel and driving to along with the carbon tax, federal tax, provincial tax, translink and tolls. Will this insanity ever end? what do these people not get about more taxes and user fees? Fast spender, eliminate all the other fuel taxes and surchages first then talk to us about road pricing.
  2. lican posted on 10/17/2012 06:01 PM
    Ok I'll start this one....Road pricing?....Sure, but gives us back all other related taxes! Its grinds me to no end that they want this on top of what they already get.Other parts of the world get it instead of.....These are the same people who think a few million a year lost to fare evasion is no biggie.

    Imagine if we took the billions that sky train cost and used it for light rail........I bet we all could have had our own train! I have a Toyota Echo because I can't afford a corvette, so why can't trans link live within their means and incidentally provide much more with light rail?....I know,I know, I'm injecting logic into it!
  3. KenL_6250 posted on 10/17/2012 08:19 PM
    It is not going to happen most that support this will be terminated in the next election!
  4. ChrisM_18 posted on 10/17/2012 08:55 PM
    Why Wasn't the Sea toSky upgrade tolled?
  5. DavidSB posted on 10/17/2012 09:47 PM
    So now these idiots want to punish us for buying fuel efficient cars? This is unbelievable!

    The plan from the start has always been gradualism. Keep raising taxes incrementally until they slowly bleed us dry! They never address the billions of dollars in debt and interest payments they create and they never address wasteful wages and salaries and useless jobs (like flower waterers and weed scrapers. Boy! Doesn't our cement look shiny!) that pay way above what the private sector would either pay or eliminate altogether!

    As you notice all these government leech groups each ask for a little bit on what seems to be a psychological time scale. Every few weeks a different group of them argues for a little bit more. Nurses, teachers, transit etc. etc. etc.! The government is constantly harassing us for a little bit more every few weeks while never addressing their overspending and wasteful spending
  6. HUGH F posted on 10/18/2012 06:14 AM
    That will certainly help lower the costs of goods and services...... NOT. I own a small mobile business that requires driving from site to site up to 5 times a day. Who do you think is going to pay for this loonie tunes episode? The consumer.. We already pay off 21 cents a liter to the province and 15 cents to the feds for gas. Now they want to screw us with another tax grab?
  7. rossj_9294 posted on 10/18/2012 07:54 AM
    Anyone in politics who agrees with this stupid idea might as well pack their bags to go home if this goes through as they will certainly be voted out in the next election.

    People are not a bottomless pit for money grabbing.
  8. michael_4092 posted on 10/18/2012 09:41 AM
    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

    WE cannot afford this!

    There will be revolt if this goes through.
  9. BOBF_5970 posted on 10/18/2012 11:17 AM
    my house is sitting on a foundation...i have never seen it drive down a road , ride a bus , ride on transit , cross a bridge , and as far as i know it has never been to whistler , never taken a ferry ride. so why is it getting charged transit fees ??
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