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More fallout from potentially steep ICBC severance payouts
VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
Shane Woodford | Email news tips to shane.woodford@corusent.com
11/8/2012

The Canadian Taxpayers Federation says the BC Government has dropped the ball at ICBC leaving taxpayers on the hook for millions.

bc spokesperson jordan bateman says problem number one is "We need better negotiators in government we need people who are there standing up for taxpayers who are grinding down executive compensation deals at the very beginning when we sign on the Auditor General made reference to this a few years back in a report maybe moving to fixed term contracts finding different ways in order to save us this severance money in the long run."

Bateman says on the BC Government's watch iICBC grew too quickly and became top heavy.

"You know there is no doubth long term money will be saved but again it is money we shouldn't have spent in the first place. the worst part of this whole story is the ICBC managers looked us in the eye and said we are going to make all these cuts and the public won't notice, and service levels won't be reduced, well if the public doesn't notice if you are cutting these jobs why did we hire them in the first place."

Bateman says people are angry over the golden handshake especially as they pay insurance premiums.

"Our basic rates went up this year you know government takes more and more money out of ICBC so away from the ratepayers and putting it into general funds. I mean ICBC has been a problem for a long time media outlets, watchdogs like us, we kept red flagging it and trying to get the governments attention it finally took that provincial review to get the full story and now we are paying the consequences."

While the Premier says the ICBC severance payouts are "ridiculous" but her government's hands are tied, theNDP are saying the buck stops with Christy Clark.

ICBC critic Mable Elmore says it isn't just ICBC.

"We have heard this in Community Living BC, in BC Ferries,  and many other crown corporations. The final responsibility rests with the Premier and it is her responsibility to oversee these areas and I think that is where we have seen quite frankly a lack of leadership and a lack of taking responsibility."

When asked if insurance rates could have been reduced if millions in severance wasn't being paid out, Elmore says..

"That is a good question and a fair question given that the Liberals didn't seem to have an idea what was going on for five years at ICBC and I have other questions as well in terms of not only severance and executive compensation. The lack of plans around payments due to bodily injury claims."

Elmore says the province has been operating ICBC for years with no plan, oversight, or accountability.

Severance payments could cost 26 million dollars for ICBC job cuts to create 29 million in savings through 2013.


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  1. brianp1950 posted on 11/09/2012 05:54 AM
    Mr Bateman, remember me? I'm the peson that emailed you a few months ago about a taxpayers bill of rights, you sort of shrugged it off saying that you might consider it, well, how about now? not just this instance but think back over the last year and all the crap these guys are pulling and tell me we do not need one. I dont see an other way to protect taxpayers than to eliminate the party system once the MLA'S are all elected as independants than to have them sign a contract with taxpayers that they will respect the wishes of their constituents or get their asses handed to them without compensation, no severence and no pension!
  2. RonE_1902 posted on 11/09/2012 07:36 AM
    Mr.Bateman, it seems that you have a mouthful of words at any solution that is long term.

    Of course these folks are entitled to a severance and so be it.

    The long term damage that you are creating for the NDP free enterprise party will not go unnoticed.
    1. cherylb_2696 posted on 11/09/2012 11:26 AM
      @RonE_1902 Of course these people are entitled to severance. The point is they never should have been hired in the first place. For years we have known that ICBC, BC Ferries, BC Hydro, etc have been loaded up with managers while the people who actually do the work are laid off. It's not like it's a surprise. I don't often agree with the Candian Taxpayers Association, but in this case they are perfectly right!

      As for Christy's dodging of accountability, the BC Lieberals were perfectly happy to accept Mike Harcourt's resignation over something that happened many years before he was even Premier, but get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, not once, but many, many times and still not resign? What a bunch of losers. Can hardly wait until May when we grind the BC Lieberals into oblivion.
  3. Jartann posted on 11/09/2012 09:09 AM
    The problem is not the severance, but that government is in the insurance business at all. Does anyone know what kind of employment contracts other people in the insurance industry have? Does anyone care? Does anyone know what the pay and benefits of people who are, for example, working for the various grocery chains? Yet, de facto, we all pay those salaries through the price we pay for food and other merchandise in the stores.

    Well ignorance hasn't stopped people before, and it won't this time either.

    Of course no one likes the severance payouts at ICBC or BC Ferries. But then, I don't think it makes any sense to be paying BC Ferries workers what many are paid, given the kind of work they do. But Mabel Elmore will not be questionning that. Her job is to cloud the issue so that we don't notice that loyal NDP supporters in public sector unions are looked after, and that after all is job 1 of the NDP.

    Government is the problem, and these problems are just the symptoms of the problem. Money spends too easily because no one
    1. ObeseRedneck posted on 11/09/2012 07:13 PM
      @Jartann When you cut wages in the public sector the private sector gets cuts. Then we have a ghetto and the kids of these workers will steal your car, sell drugs.........

      Why was ICBC invented? Because car insurance was tooo unaffordable.

      How old are you? Too young to remember.
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