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Transit funding has civic politicians pushing back against the province
VANCOUVER/CKNW (AM980)
Shane Woodford | Email news tips to shane.woodford@corusent.com
2/7/2013

 

CKNW has obtained an email from the chair of the mayors council for regional transportaton that seems to indicate tensions are on the rise over transit funding.
 
In the email Richard Walton tells mayors when Transportation Minister Mary Polak's next media appearance is and how best to counter her points.
 
He tells mayors they have to stress the province needs to come through with funding from 2011 for increased bus and seabus service among other things.
 
Walton also emphasizes transit funding must match growth in the region over the next 30 years.
 
He says that will require millions of dollars in transit, cycling, walking, and roads infrastructure.  
 
Walton also tells mayors to hammer the point home that the Expo line needs upgrading, and Surrey along with the Broadway corridor both need rapid transit.
 
Mayors recently sent the minister funding options, she has asked for more details

The mayor of Vancouver says he and his fellow mayors are sticking to their deadline on transit funding.
 
Robertson says if no new funding is found by February 28th the impacts on the transit system will be immediate.

"If there isn't money found in the budget or new money that is put forward by the BC Government then transit service will be cut it will be reduced around the region and we will start going on a downward spiral which I don't think anyone in the region wants we are already straining that system right now you know the ridership keeps going up and if the service goes down that is a big problem."

Robertson wouldn't admit the mayors council is in a fight with Transportation Minister Mary Polak.

"I wouldn't describe it as tension I think it is more the mayors have been meeting for years we agree on the points we are going to put forward. We want better transit service that is the bottom line here we know we are all going to need to pay a little bit more to get better transit service as far as communicating that we do have a shared message."

Robertson also does not think think civic politicians will be divided by the Fraser river when it comes to the next big transit project.

Transportation Minister Mary Polak told mayors she wants to know if it will be expanding the Expo line in Surrey or Broadway rapid transit next.

But Robertson foesn't see the issue causing friction between Surrey and Vancouver.
 
"Well it doesn't makse sense to make that choice right now the first piece...we know we need both of them and it is just a matter of timing and where the money is going to come from to do it so at this point we are saying here is some ways that we can raise the funds we need to obviously work on those details with citizens, with taxpayers."

Robertson says transit must be funded to match the regions growing needs.


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  1. speakup posted on 02/07/2013 12:00 PM
    is this a threat or a promise?
  2. taxed to death posted on 02/07/2013 12:06 PM
    Then so beit Gregor! With all these rediculous bike lanes you built lets see more people on bikes and less on transit....Ya thats gonna work now isnt it? you dopes in city hall somehow forgot we live in the north where its rainy and cold for 8 months out of the year. I have a suggestion if you need funding, actually a couple.

    1. STOP CONTINUALLY COMING TO THE TAXPAYER FOR MONEY WE ARE NOT A NEVER ENDING SOURCE OF REVENUE.

    2. LET THE USERS START PICKING UP A LOT MORE OF THE COST, EVEN IF IT MEANS RAISING FARES WELL THATS LIFE.

    3.REDUCE YOUR SPENDING BY 1 TO 3% IN EACH MUNICIPALITY AND USE THOSE REVENUES TO SUPPLEMENT TRANSIT.

    4. A 10% REDUCTION IN UPPER LEVEL MANAGMENT SALARIES INCLUDING TRANSIPT COPS.

    AND FINALLY, STOP INCREASING TRANSIT AND BULIDING NEW LINES IF THE MONEY IS NOT ALREADY THERE, ITS HOW WE AS TAXPAYERS LIVE. REDUCE GROWTH IN THIS CITY ANUALLY (POPULATION) BY AN ADDITIONAL 25%....WE SIMPLY HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE FOR THE CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE AND FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO COST OF THIS CITY...MEANING PEOPLE ON WELFARE. STOP BUILDING HOMELESS SHELTERS AND SUPPLEMENTING THE DREGS ON SOCIETY....ITS FAR TIME THESE USELESS TWITS THAT CANT CONTRIBUTE ARE SHIPPED OUT OF A WORLD CLASS CITY AND ROOM MADE FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN.
    1. speakup posted on 02/07/2013 12:15 PM
      @taxed to death They need to HIRE YOU TODAY!
      All of these COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS should be implemeted ASAP!

      Especially - lowering useless top end /trasit cops salaries
      AND - make ALL tranist employees (especially TOP END) take transit to WORK and especially ALL and every meetings!!
      AND NO WAY - should any car allowances be PAID in tranSTINK!!!
    2. ChrisM_18 posted on 02/07/2013 01:10 PM
      @taxed to death Well said . Gregor and the Translink bunch are addicted to spending more money ...and there just isn't any more money !! They need to reduce costs for a while to build up a cash reserve before they come back to the tax payers !
  3. speakup posted on 02/07/2013 12:31 PM
    Seems to me - not that long ago -(before TROLLS lived under our bridges) -there was a BIG PUSH on user pay - sooooooooo......
    WHY do we ALL have to pay for tranSTINK services we do not use
    or even GET in certain areas??
    There is no continuity in political thinking and screwing
  4. speakup posted on 02/07/2013 12:36 PM
    Love how the chair advises mayors how to counter the 'other' government!
    This is GREAT leadership skills and working together attitudes from professionals - Hope young people are getting good mentorship and examples from these people that are looking out for the 'best interest of the people they serve'
    Keep calm and carry on - more meetings = more money
    So the longer this 'dance' goes on - the more money they make

    Oh the poeple? who? what? where? HUH
  5. brianp1950 posted on 02/07/2013 12:39 PM
    screw you and your continuous need of our money, NO MORE FRIGGIN TAXES, PERIOD!!!!!!
  6. BOBF_5970 posted on 02/07/2013 12:51 PM
    put an immediate hold on the evergreen line....stop all expansion 'til sufficient means of obtaining funds are found. stop this policy of tax , tax , tax....start looking at user pay.
  7. joes_2868 posted on 02/07/2013 01:00 PM
    taxed to death: I did not believe the day would ever come where we could agree on eveyday politics.
    I would like to congratulate you for this excellent commentary. Enjoy the rest of your day.
    1. taxed to death posted on 02/07/2013 01:20 PM
      @joes_2868 Thanks Joe!
  8. AndreaK_5056 posted on 02/07/2013 01:41 PM
    It's long past time to merge/amalgamate whatever you want to call it, the 20+ municipalities that make up the Lower Mainland. The millions and millions of dollars that could be saved not paying 20+ mayors & councils, 20+ planning departments, finance departments, engineering departments and so on and so on, would fund transit for decades.

    This many municipalities for such a low population is completely unsustainable.
  9. joes_2868 posted on 02/07/2013 01:55 PM
    taxed to death: You are welcome. Thanks to you too.
  10. StephenG_3 posted on 02/07/2013 02:16 PM
    The arrogance of the Lower Mainland Mayors is outstanding! These so called City leaders demand Provincial tax revenue from ALL British Columbians in order to pay for their mistakes and inability to control own spending!

    The Greater Vancouver Municipalities have already received substantial funding from both the Federal and Provincial government to build their transportation system. It is now time THEY look to funding such operation.

    I think it is time for a complete audit of these Lower Mainland city governments including the GVRD, Translink etc., to establish financial accountability along with spending waste. Once that happens, then they can figure out their spending priorities! I do not think they have a clue now.
  11. JamesT_12 posted on 02/07/2013 03:07 PM
    Here's what pisses me off about having to fund bus riders.

    Let's just be conservative here and talk about a pretty basic car.

    Car Loan = $350.00 per month
    Fuel = $400.00 per month
    Insurance = $125.00 per month
    Basic Maintenance, Oil changes, tire rotation etc. lets say = $85.00 per month.


    This adds up to $960.00 per month divided by 30 days.
    That's $32.00 per day. I know it sounds crazy, but that's what it is. We have 2 cars in our family so we are forking out around 60 bucks a day!!

    If they want more funding, get the bus riders to pay somewhere even close to what it costs to get around in this town. A bus ticket should be more like $20.00. Why in the hell am I paying for them to cheap out and ride on a bus.

    I'm so sick of listening to these whiners. I chose to drive a car and you chose to ride a bus....so pay up and shut up!!!

    Plus there parking and other expenses, these jokers just jump off and run!!
    1. taxed to death posted on 02/07/2013 05:45 PM
      @JamesT_12 100 percent total agreement..you nailed it...we who drive are hit twice...screw em things need to shift...severely ...I'm sick of subsidizing the inept
  12. Jartann posted on 02/07/2013 06:11 PM
    There are many advantages to living in Metro Vancouver-I am a former resident who moved away many years ago. But for many if not most people, the career, business, etc opportunities are far superior to what is available to those of us who live in smaller communities. That is why so many people choose to live in the region. So, the people of the Metro Vancouver should pay for the cost of transit. Those of us who live elsewhere should not be contributing.
  13. rossj_9294 posted on 02/07/2013 08:17 PM
    Maybe Translink didn't get the "memo" that day, so here it is...


    NO MORE TAXES! WE GOT NO MORE MONEY LEFT!
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