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UPDATE: Auditor General speaks about leaving BC for new job
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Marcella Bernardo | Email news tips to Marcella
2/5/2013

Saying he didn't want to leave BC, Auditor General John Doyle admits recent events convinced him to take a job offer in his native Australia.
 
He says the offer of a two-year extension from Premier Christy Clark was insulting.

"I made it clear to the chair of the committee that I wouldn't accept anything other than a six-year extension. If for example, there's a change of government, the new chair of the public accounts committee will be from the Liberal party.  It just seems to me to be some interesting decisions --very strange decisions-- being made in regard to the timing of the appointment."
 
Speaking with CKNW'S Simi Sara, Doyle says he's prepared to stay until his current six-year term ends in October.
 
He adds he won't appeal last week's court ruling denying him access to documents explaining why taxpayers covered six million dollars worth of legal fees for convicted criminals Dave Basi and Bob Virk.
 
He says he is hoping to complete his review of government policies linked to that type of compensation before he leaves.


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  1. cherylb_2696 posted on 02/05/2013 02:34 PM
    Of course it was insulting. She meant it to be, but if she made the offer, she was hoping it would make her look like the reasonable mediator and Doyle like he was being ungrateful. Fortunately, everyone in BC understands the BC Lieberal mentality and it didn't work. Thanks for everything John. Sorry to see you go.
  2. KenL_6250 posted on 02/05/2013 02:42 PM
    If it is his native land then this a good place for him, now Christy Clark will hire some one who is a Liberal hack and will not hold this dysfunctional Christ Clark and her Liberals for the wrong doings in their government, but BC Rail is not going away Christy Clark, we know that is what you want but will not happen this Liberal judge should be charged with obstruction of justice for not allowing documents to be released. G.D. Lawyers and BC Law Society
    1. DougB_25 posted on 02/05/2013 03:19 PM
      @KenL_6250 Your assumption that Christy Clark will hire a Liberal hack is EXACTLY why this job should be a ONE TERM,NO EXCEPTIONS job.If you were not so politically biased you would see the reason for that.
      I like John Doyle.But like the federal legislation,BC should also have legislation that makes it clear that there are no opportunities for a second term.Only by doing that can BC citizens know that the auditor general is not trying to curry favour with ANY political party in order to be re-appointed.
  3. insite posted on 02/05/2013 03:22 PM
    The newest update on Mr. Doyle indicates that the research quoted below was way off the facts.

    QUOTE from an earlier post: "What a bunch of nonsense! Check all the facts and you will see that Doyle had already applied for the job in Australia before the political controversy all began.

    He had no intention of staying in B.C.

    Where has the day gone where facts and reality were considered before propaganda! "

    Now that the above post has been proved to reflect not-so-accurate research, I am put in the position of having to and apologize for suggesting the the provincial government knew or should have known that Mr. Doyle was already planning to leave. The lesson for me is to check my sources before I run with the information.
  4. joes_2868 posted on 02/05/2013 03:58 PM
    Go to google and type in: VIC AUDITOR-GENERAL TO RETIRE: THE AUSTRALIAN

    Des Pearson, Victoria, Australia auditor general announced his retirement on August 8, 2012.

    MAYBE IT IS TIME FOR JOHN DOYLE TO COME CLEAN AND ADMIT THAT HE KNEW HE WAS LEAVING B.C. REGARDLESS OF THE EXTENSION PROPOSAL.

    I HAVE ALWAYS SAID TO LAY OUT ALL THE FACTS AND FIGURES AND HERE WE HAVE A AUDITOR GENERAL THAT HAS LEFT FACTS OUT OF HIS ANNOUNCEMENTS.

    UNBLIEVABLE, BUT TRUE!
    1. Fate posted on 02/05/2013 04:29 PM
      @joes_2868 In your post in the other story about Doyle leaving you said "Check all the facts and you will see that Doyle had already applied for the job in Australia before the political controversy all began."

      A number of people (myself included) asked you for a link to prove this, conveniently you havent yet provided this.

      Still waiting...
  5. Brian WA posted on 02/05/2013 04:07 PM
    I believe John Doyle has until October (his words) left on his contract and if he leaves earlier than that, I'm sure there will be this huge Gold parachute that he will take advantage of. Call me cynical , but the next auditor General will be looking into his departure and the money he will taken with him !!!
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 02/05/2013 05:42 PM
      @ Brian WA We must look into why risky Clark wanted him out.I know one reason,the BC Rail corruption scandal that risky Clark in totally involved in. Why will icky not come clean because risky has something to hide.Yes folks risky Clark is arrogant and Not to be trusted ever.
  6. insite posted on 02/05/2013 06:22 PM
    Joes_2868. the suggested site, when googled, only proved that the A-G of the Australian State announced his retirement on August 12, 2012. Only a huge leap of logic would allow one to reach a conclusion that Mr. Doyle applied for and was awarded the A-G position at any time before the Liberals went after him.

    Rather than speculate on what Mr Doyle did or didn't do, I would prefer to take him at his word. His display of integrity and honesty deserves such respect.

    Mr.Doyle was shamefully pushed out.

    I apologize for all my typos due to hunt and peck on my iPad.
  7. bctaxpayer posted on 02/06/2013 07:01 AM
    I get sick when I see or hear her child like ads slamming Dix. What a arrogant degrading selfvserving immature photo op queen.Risky is digging her grave deeper and deeper.What a windbag.
  8. BrianD_7 posted on 02/06/2013 07:44 AM
    BCTAXPAYER youre always on here with your degrading crap.all right already we get the point you dont like the liberals but people enter politics to make a difference and make this province better. why dont you take a lesson from your leader and mentor mr. dix and not be confrontational and negative and give us a break.youre maturity shows with name calling and improper spelling its PREMIER CHRISTY CLARK and its the BC LIBERAL PARTY.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 02/06/2013 07:48 AM
      @BrianD_7 To us risky Clark is arrogant and a immature unelected photo op queen,who has a lot to learn about politics.
  9. joes_2868 posted on 02/06/2013 08:14 AM
    Victoria, Australia, have six year terms for their auditor general positions.
    Des Person, Victoria auditor general on August 8, 2012 announced his retirement after a six year term, and said that he will vacate his office by mid December, 2012.

    Applications for his replacement would have to be in government by October 1, 2012.

    On February 5, 2013, Ted Baillieu, premier of Victoria, Australia, said Des Pearson has been very critical of the government and said that new auditor general John Doyle will now ensure the public that their tax dollars are well spent.

    On January 5, 2013, the B.C. government announces that the committee failed to unanimously re-appoint him.

    As applications for the auditor general job in Victoria, Australia had to be in by October 1, 2012, it shows that John Doyle had no intentions of staying a second term in B.C.

    Ted Baillieu, premier of Victoria, Australia says that John Doyle will arrive by July 1, 2013.

    It is time for John Doyle to come clean on his recent accusations.

    He is the auditor general and is holding back his true intentions from the B.C. taxpayers.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 02/06/2013 08:58 AM
      @joes_2868 Would you agree it is also time for risky Clark to come clean on her involvement in the BC Rail corruption scandal?
  10. armwinder posted on 02/06/2013 09:02 AM
    John Doyle said he was "considering" becoming a citizen of Canada! He only has to live here for three years to be eligible. You would think the first thing he would do is take the oath if he was intending to stay. He was the former deputy auditor general of Western Australia, he must have applied for the auditor generals job over there before he even knew his term was not to be extended.

    Australia says he starts in July 1st Doyle says he will be here until October, either way he will not go away empty handed I'm sure. I think he should just go away and stop showboating.

    Read more: http://bc.ctvnews.ca/embattled-b-c-auditor-general-john-doyle-to-move-down-under-1.1143720#ixzz2K8g2PkPY
  11. insite posted on 02/06/2013 10:02 AM
    Hands up everyone. Would you believe Mr. Doyle, a man who is honest and trustworthy with impeccable credentials or would you believe speculation and spin?

    But, perhaps, it is true that Mr. Doyle already had his Australian post in his pocket before the knife. So what?

    But, that only speaks to how astute and observant Mr. Doyle is. He received a heads up from the government to apply for the Australian job because he wasn't going to be reappointed unless he relented on his quest to get to the bottom of the Basi-Virk payment.

    But, no one should take my word for it because I am only speculating. If you believe a truce could have been negotiated between Mr. Doyle and the government, the new PM Bridge is yours.

    But, I am not making this up: Mr. Doyle indicated, regardless of the outcome of the election, he would be put into the untenable position of either having to work with a Liberal government or be exposed to further harrassment from committees chaired by a Liberal (Check the CKNW audio vault and TV sources to obtain exactly what he said).

    Finally, regardless of my opinion, we should agree that the BC taxpayer's loss is the government's gain...of ANY STRIPE.

    Hopefully, the new A-G will be as good.
  12. Jartann posted on 02/06/2013 10:13 AM
    The ignorance on this issue is staggering. We will never know if Mr. Doyle had applied for the new job in the State of Victoria while he was going through the re appointment process here. The timing suggests he had this as a Plan B at least. And, as we can see, other jurisdictions place time limits on the A/G just to avoid the reappointment circus we have seen here.

    Mr. Doyle is not the only employee at the BC A/G office. There are dozens of qualified accountants and articling students there. So, even if Mr. Doyle was to walk out today, all the work would go on and the 2nd in charge would be a temporary A/G pending the appointment of a new one. Or, that person may be considered the most suitable and be appointed anyway. Mr Doyle is not some lonely crusader working alone against the big mean BC Liberals

    So, all this blather about Mr Doyle being the super watchdog who the Liberals were trying to get rid of is just nonsense. The work will continue with a new A/G nothing will change. What is interesting to me is that no A/G is prepared to comment on the biggest funding time bomb we have-the coming underfunding of the government workers pension plans. Rates of return are insufficient to match the defined benefit inflation adjusted guarantee they have. Could it be because the A/G employees are beneficiares of this?

    I would invite those who keep accusing Christy Clark of corruption on the BC Rail deal to say so in public, on the record and using their own name. Then we will see if perhaps if they might be on the wrong end of a defamation litigation.

    Doyle is a grandstander. We have had auditors general before and none have had the problems he says he has, and others produced unfavorable reports about the government of the day. The State of Victoria is about 1/4 the size of BC-I hope there is enough room for his ego.
    1. HJDH posted on 02/06/2013 07:12 PM
      @Jartann "grandstander", it takes one to know one!
  13. joes_2868 posted on 02/06/2013 10:15 AM
    bctaxpayer: Isn't that the same as former NDP minister of finance Dave Stupich, getting 18 months house arrest for being guilty of missing funds over 1 million dollars which he did not have to pay back and had all of his legal fees paid for by the taxpayer.
    1. bctaxpayer posted on 02/06/2013 10:32 AM
      @joes_2868 How about the 6 Million $$$$$$ that risky Clark gave to two convicted BC Lie beral criminals who work for the lie BERALS.Would she have given that amount to and if it were a NDP member????????Please tell us why did risky Clark give two BC Lie berals 6Million?? please answer we are all waiting.
  14. speakup posted on 02/06/2013 11:27 AM
    WHY would we give any BC or Canada job (civil or corporation) to ANYONE that is NOT a Canadian Citizen??????
    It makes NO SENSE whatsoever in the first place!

    Doyle is like all other humans
    - he is ONLY EVER thinking - what's in it for me!!!!

    Send him HOME- that was his plan all along anyways
    He is NOT A CANADIAN and especially NOT a BC'er!

    It use to be (is it still?????) that you could not work for governemtn/gov. corps and such unless you were a citizen......
    AND THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE!

    Look at ALL other smarter countries .........
    pretty hard to get in for work - but in BC we LOOK FOR THEM

    BUB BYE Doyle - karma bites HARD
  15. insite posted on 02/06/2013 02:40 PM
    Whether Mr. Doyle applied for and was awarded the A-G position in Australia before February 3, 2013 is irrelevant. The facts do not alter the notion that the decision to not reappoint Mr. Doyle was extremely partisan and poorly handled at best. The circus was avoidable.

    If the government knew that other jurisdictions set out A-G tenure limits to avoid a reappointment circus, it could have have debated and passed that into law such an obvious solution way ahead of time-but it didn't. The result was a circus!

    The tenure limit legislation was only announced as an afterthought to minimize political damage many days after the controversy erupted-long after the horse had left the barn. Even the great unwashed, as myself, saw through that. Let's hold our politicians to account rather than dissing ignorant posters.

    Excellent suggestion by a poster that Mr. Doyle is not indispensible. All he has to do is stick his finger into a bucket of water, withdraw it and see the hole which he will be leaving behind.

    Yes, there are highly-qualified employees inside the A-G's Office. The A-G does not have time to personally probe every aspect of government (regardless of political stripe) fiscal mismanagement. His capable staff does the hard work and the A-G reports the findings to the Legislature. Here, in this circus, is the spectacle of "shooting the messenger (A-G)" for reporting embarrassing findings uncovered by his capable underlings.

    I believe in the honesty and integrity of the Office of the A-G and its staff and that is certainly the case. If there is an concern that is backed by evidence, write a letter to our premier.

    It was rather perplexing to learn that the A-G Office and staff do not perform audits which affect their self interests such as government pension plans. Why not write a letter with evidence to back up the accustion?

    It is totally unfair to accuse the A-G Office and staff of not doing their job. If that were true, it is the government that has failed us through inaction..

    But, there is a sense that the "deprivation effect" is in play. We are all envious if someone else has a benefit which we don't have and we that the other person be stripped of the benefit (found in economic and behavioral theory). Actually, children often behave in this manner.

    Perhaps, as The Province recently suggested, the real problem is {that} many employees equally deserve but are not provided with a pension. What a novel and obvious solution!

    But, this is all off-topic.
  16. insite posted on 02/06/2013 02:44 PM
    Correction to my last post: Should read:

    But, there is a sense that the "deprivation effect" is in play. We are all envious if someone else has a benefit which we don't have and we want the other person to be stripped of the benefit (found in economic and behavioral theory). Actually, children often behave in this manner
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