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The Mayor of Surrey isn't buying what Translink is selling on falling Golden Ears bridge toll revenue
SURREY/CKNW (AM980)
Shane Woodford | Email news tips to shane.woodford@corusent.com
9/17/2012

The Mayor of Surrey isn't buying what Translink is selling when it comes to predictions of increased traffic over the Golden Ears bridge.

 Dianne Watts says tolls on the new Port Mann won't alter traffic numbers on the Golden Ears by much.

 This after Translink said toll revenues on the span have fallen short by almost $40 million.

  "The reason that it has decreased is because the tolls are too high and when you start tolling one bridge here one bridge there there is diversion. The diversion that was taking place on the Golden Ears of course was the Port Mann we have got a reduction in the tolls on the Port Mann for a year so I think when those go up to three dollars we are going to see some diversion again."

 Watts says when Port Mann tolls go up it will push drivers elsewhere, perhaps clogging up roads in her city, which lacks needed transit infrastructure.

  "That is exactly the concern. You have to have an integrated transportation system and plan along with a sustainable funding policy and its just a hiccup one after other after the other and struggling trying to put in place a funding model."

 She says drivers could divert to the Pattullo, or Alex Fraser bridges or try and get to Surrey's skytrain stations.

 Watts isn't beating around the bush either over funding woes facing Translink.

 She says it has been one hiccup after another and even ideas like using gas tax revenue have fallen short.

  "The loss of revenue for gas..you know the gas tax was put on to raise money for Transportation but you know the tipping point was the tipping point so people are heading down to the states or out to the valley so you have lost you know tens of millions of dollars in that revenue."


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  1. Vancouver Sucks posted on 09/17/2012 08:49 PM
    Surrey should back out of the gas tax then. If Surrey is getting nothing in return except for paying tolls, then there is a BIG problem! As far as the idiots at Translink go concerning the Golden Ears bridge. If the idiots would lower the toll to $1 maybe 3 times as much traffic would drive the bridge and they would actually make some money. It's not that hard to figure out. If you toll 1 car $50 and only get 2 drivers on the bridge, sure you make $100. But if you charged $10 and you had 100 drivers, now you just made $1000. The bridge is there whether anyone uses it or not. I'm happy people are refusing to pay those GOUGING rates. Maybe someone will WAKE up and lower the rates. Time to fire the entire economic division of Translink and the provincial government!
    1. RonE_1902 posted on 09/18/2012 09:23 AM
      @Vancouver Sucks I agree, getting out of over taxing commuters for gas is the right thing to do.

      Translink can not control the purchases out of their area, as the proper.

      So, this idea is doomed if they think that people agree with their taxes and ongoing mismanagement of revenue.

      They have to find a better tax source like taxing casino licencing or establishments. Perhaps a capital gains tax on any winnings over $500.00.

      As for taxing liquor it would go the same way as gas with purchases made outside of the GVRD.
  2. StephenG_3 posted on 09/17/2012 11:50 PM
    Lower Mainland residents are being hammered by multiple taxes Gas, Carbon, Parking, Property taxes, to which the incompetent Translink has frittered away by poor planning, over burdened costs, and terrible management. Then these Tolls are adding to the utter chaos.

    The entire thing is a total mess!
  3. BCSkulker posted on 09/18/2012 06:52 AM
    I wonder what the TransLink plans would have looked like without the pressure from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, other groups and individuals demanding a Provincial audit? Can't wait to see that one.

    It only proves, at times, when you shine a light on governments and their bureaucracies they run like cockroaches.

    Good job everyone. Let's not stop here. We have to keep the pressure on these guys to make sure this isn't just p.r. Time to change the BOD; make them directly elected by and answerable to the people.
  4. howards_1187 posted on 09/18/2012 08:40 AM
    First off they over built the Cap horn why do they need 11 overpasses. If they had pulled all the over passes back to King Ed they could have used 2 over passes and not had anyone entering right at the bridge saving a billion dollars. Second If you put a transportation tax on the vehicle there is no getting around it. If you are going to turn the freeway into a turnpike then make everyone using it reguardless of whether they have to cross a bridge. I will start to use the Mission bridge going to Abbotsford once the tolls go in place.
  5. JOHN A posted on 09/18/2012 09:52 AM
    Dianne Watts has it right on. I travel from Maple Ridge to Surrey and have now gone back to the Patullo bridge instead of the Golden Ears. My bill was about 80 bucks a month and I can fill my car with that and run for almost two weeks on that tank of fuel. I loose 10 to 20 minutes on my commute and by tossing that 80 bucks back into my tank I am saving money by burning more fuel. Oh yes the gas tax is far too high we take a leisurely drive out to Mission to fuel both our vehicles and save a bundle on our fuel cost. No use paying the extra tax to the government so they can just toss it off the back of a truck or roll in the loot and spoil themselves and their friends. There was money for the roads in the fifties and sixties with little population in our area. One would think with a more dense population base the tax per person would be less. Its about time for another half dozen Liberals to jump ship then they might have a chance next election.
  6. Mr. B. Rennie posted on 09/18/2012 10:31 AM
    Hello Mayor:

    I have two ideas that will solve all your problems
    1 - tax all the people / gas tax evaders buying Jerry cans upon gerry can's of gas in Blaine and Bellingham. All the ones in your jurisdiction - south surrey.
    They all cross once a week with 3 -5 five gallon gerry cans. The goes partial revenue from gas tax for your roads.
    2 - tax all the secondary and 3rd suites in Surrey. It's the wild west there. You are the only city that has 3 to 4 families living in one house that pays the property tax of only one home. YOu whine about underfunding of your packed school system - you created this problem for yourself.
    Tax the 3rd and 4th secondary suites. Give me a break!!! See it for yourself in Newton, Chimney Heights, Fleetwood, Cloverdale.... Look at the driveways that you allow them to pave over their grass to park 4 to 7 cars.
    Stop whining and fix your own problems. Where do you think those 7 cars go during the day??? They drive over the bridges without paying their fair share. Go ask your Milk Pirannahs to buy canadain milk and pay canadian gas tax, and pay municipal property tax - problem solved.
    This is not a race issue, it's a - taking money out of your economy issue.
    Also, all the investement homes registered as princpal residences that are not, as 4 families live in one house and rent out their principle residences....
    loss of more revenue. Geezz......
    Your city is the wild west, fix it, and DON'T GET US TO PAY FOR YOUR PROBLEMS.
    1. Ron_26 posted on 09/18/2012 04:22 PM
      @Mr. B. Rennie Way to stick to the subject of transportation.
    2. commonsense posted on 09/19/2012 07:11 PM
      @Mr. B. Rennie So I guess Surrey should pay for their own hospital, own 2 universities, their colleges, their borders, train tracks, skytrain stations and so on. In fact, every city should be responsible for their own costs. I guess certain cities would smarten up.

      Translink has failed to serve the interests of the areas they provide. They failed to look at growth. They failed to understand costs. They failed.

      When a project is established to solve traffic and congestion issues, this cost taken on by the government needs to serve the interests of all and not punish the locatees (Surrey). Why shouldn't all bridges be tolled? People complain there is too much congestion and a lack of interest shown to those areas that see a growth in vehicular traffic. There's your tipping point.

      People say that Surrey residents are scum, but you Mr. B. Rennie show that scum is all over.
  7. BOBF_5970 posted on 09/18/2012 01:47 PM
    an easy way to raise more money for translink....charge $10.00 for every non comercial canadian vehicle returning from the usa. this might put a damper on some of those cross border shoppers who are popping down for milk , cheese and gas.
  8. bruin1 posted on 09/18/2012 02:05 PM
    Mr.B.Rennie your such an IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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