Vancouver wants NEB to assess economic impacts of climate change

Vancouver, BC, Canada / (CKNW AM) AM980

The City of Vancouver has filed a motion with the National Energy Board requesting the economic impacts of climate change be included in the review of Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain pipeline expansion proposal.

City Councillor Andrea Reimer says the process already looks at the economic impact of expanding the pipeline and tankers sevenfold.

“We’re saying that, if you’re going to look at the economic impacts you need to also look at the economic impact cause from the climate change that results from the emissions related to this decision. These aren’t insignificant costs to cities, when you look at Calgary, for example, last summer had a flood that estimated to cause damage up to six billion dollars, that’s a very significant economic impact for a city.”

Reimer points out even global insurance companies have begun to factor climate change into their economic risk assessments.

Full News Release below:

Insurance companies factor in climate change, so should NEB, says City.

The City of Vancouver filed a motion yesterday with the National Energy Board (NEB) to ensure that the economic impacts of climate change are included in the review of Kinder Morgan’s Trans Mountain pipeline expansion. This move reflects the material risk climate change poses to economic stability as even global insurance companies have begun to factor climate change into their economic risk assessments.

Included in the City’s motion is an affidavit from the City’s Chief Risk Officer. The affidavit provides evidence on how the insurance industry evaluates the exposure of businesses to climate change risks and how these costs are increasingly factored in to insurance rates.

“It makes no sense for the NEB to ignore the economic impacts of climate change, while insurance companies around the world are adjusting their business models because of it,” said Mayor Robertson. “Climate change has significant economic costs that cannot be swept aside when evaluating a pipeline project of this magnitude.

“An analysis of the impacts of Kinder Morgan’s proposal for a seven-fold increase in oil tankers in our waters must take into account the full economic impacts of climate change.”

The City’s statement of facts also includes evidence from Mark Jaccard, a professor at Simon Fraser University with a PhD in energy and economics, as well as former Chair and CEO of the BC Utilities Commissions; and global insurer Swiss Re.

Evidence from Dr. Jaccard references that the Trans Mountain project would increase greenhouse gas emissions by 270 million tonnes over a 35-year period.

“The impacts of climate change are real and must be accounted for,” added the Mayor. “The project will increase the drivers of climate change, but it will be the residents and businesses of Vancouver who will pay the cost. A full economic analysis of this pipeline proposal cannot ignore the risks to our overall economy due to climate change.”

The failure to factor in the economic impacts of climate change is just one of the many issues raised by the City of Vancouver as their role of intervenor in the NEB hearings and other actions are being initiated by the City in parallel to this motion being filed.

In response to the frustration of stakeholders who have been unable to participate in the process, a motion was passed on May 14th to develop a series of public engagement events. Launching in June, these events will provide residents, including those who were denied access to the NEB hearings, with a forum to share their opinions on the Kinder Morgan pipeline proposal. Kinder Morgan representatives will be invited to participate.

See link to the National Energy Board documents at: http://docs.neb-one.gc.ca/fetch.asp?language=E&ID=A60478

Comments

  1. It used to be the Global Warming caused by humanity is COMING. So far it did not come. Now it is Climate Change, not even the WEATHER so called scientist still can’t predict with any accuracy.

    All that mone ywasted on studies but can anybody show me WHERE is Global Warming occuring? Definitely no trace of it in Canada.

    Like in the 1970s when CO2 was supposed to cause an ICE Age it sure looke like this husterya driven by some self serving people who profit from it and some dupes is just an other scam of this century

  2. I have to admit I am not very smart on this junk. Maybe moonebeam and his goofy side kick that didn’t even have the smarts to were a helmet when riding his little kids bike when playing on the road with big cars and stuff in traffic could they tell me why the ice melted the first time and then came back? Then why it melted the second time? And then tell me about the up and down small ice ages that have been happening since? We are still coming out of the last one. And we know for sure that al gore wasn’t out driving around in his fleet of suv’s telling the sheep that the sky is falling. So we know that he didn’t add to the first one.
    And if he can actually get through that one maybe he could explane why Mars goes up and down in temp at about the same ratio that the earth does?
    Been happening for more than four billion years. I have talked to lots of people like moonbean and his crowd and not one of them have any idea how to BS their way through it!!

  3. Vision must learn that they are regarded as kooks. Vancouver proper is in a state of decline with them in charge. There is no way the Federal Government will even give these “requests” any more than a passing glance.

  4. These guys are following the Cloward and Piven playbook to the letter. Their game is to be an obstructionist and facts and truth matter not. They have no love of truth, honesty, personal freedom or a free market; they are the antithesis of all of these concepts. Do we really have to bring up East Anglia again? We all have short memories? Do you really have to be reminded of the tactic of the Nazi propaganda machine? To paraphrase; if you tell a big enough lie long and often enough eventually people will start to believe it.

    Wouldn’t it be nice to see how much money from the international, multi-billionaire types and slush funds they create are being used to back the Vision nut bars? Reports indicate Soros and his OSI alone has distributed at least $5 Billion to activist groups (and he’s only one of these characters). One of their targets is to get like-minded individuals controlling local governments and cities. Frequently the are able to do this because they have a lot of money, sympathizers in the press and far too many people that sit on their a** at election time. What percentage of the people vote in municipal elections?

    The Vancouver taxpayers better get real active now; you can’t wait for the election and just vote. If you look at elections in the US and other nations, they have no conscience about how they grab power; their mantra is vote and vote often and ballot box stuffing or moving ‘voters’ from poll to poll seems to be a standard practice. Once you get these guys out, at least you will make them spend their own money on this nonsense instead of your tax dollars. Although we all laugh at these clowns, they are a real threat to your freedoms. Get involved people!

  5. “The impacts of climate change are real and must be accounted for,” added the Mayor.

    Absolute lunacy . . . according to NASA there has been NO increase in Global Temperature for almost 17 years now.

    When did the climate not change? What would be the ideal climate for BC?

    Explain how ONE molecule of CO2 . . . surrounded by 2500 molecules of OTHER GASES can do anything except make the greenery grow?

    Gorebull Warming was based entirely on Computer Models that have been 100% WRONG for decades . . .

    The Reality is Canada has reduced carbon emissions to 2002 levels in the last decade and is only 2% of ALL global emissions . . . it is a non-issue.

    Why are these enviro-loons not working the streets in Bejing or Mombia the most polluted cities on the planet? This is a UN inspired global scam . . . . .

  6. These are the predictions made on the first earth day in 1970.

    Didn’t believe them then, don’t believe them now . . .

    1.”Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” — Harvard biologist George Wald

    2.”We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation.” — Washington University biologist Barry Commoner

    3.”Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.” — New York Times editorial

    4.”Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make. The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” — Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich

    5.”Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born… [By 1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.” — Paul Ehrlich

    6.”It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” — Denis Hayes, Chief organizer for Earth Day

    7.”Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to
    include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine
    conditions…. By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.” — North Texas State University professor Peter Gunter

    8.”In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution… by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half.” — Life magazine

    9.”At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

    10.”Air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” — Paul Ehrlich

    11.”By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate… that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, ‘Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, ‘I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” — Ecologist Kenneth Watt

    12.”[One] theory assumes that the earth’s cloud cover will continue to thicken as more dust, fumes, and water vapor are belched into the atmosphere by industrial smokestacks and jet planes. Screened from the sun’s heat, the planet
    will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born.” — Newsweek magazine

    13.”The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.” — Kenneth Watt

    • Well done Dale. You get the gold star for the day.
      These guys hate it when you quote them; makes it tougher to deny their global deception. Boy, the world according to Soros/Gore/Suzuki/Moonbeam et. al. hate it when you do that.
      But then again, the UN mouthpieces say the facts aren’t important; it’s the intentions that make it meaningful. Do you think Joseph Goebbels had a similar mindset?

    • Thumbs up Dale ! … I am tired of the BS that is spewed out by politicians and we all know it has nothing to do with the environment but everything to do with the almighty dollar !

  7. Regarding Reimer and her ilk: I believe they are entitled to their own opinion but they ARE NOT entitled to their own facts. Unfortunately the ” sky is falling ” crowd is continuously making up facts to support their position that are out right lies and our wishy – washy media and their ill trained reporters fail to call them on it…

  8. Where we’re all the factories using coal , where we’re all the gas guzzling vehicles , where we’re all the people 10,000 years ago when Canada was covered in a glacier thousands of feet thick and was already melting fast. Tell me what caused this big melt ? ….I will be waiting for an answer…

  9. Excellent posts- good points made by all. The only thing I would add is …../of course the insurance companies would factor “climate change” into their evaluations. It’s all about perception not accuracy or truth. Anything that can be used to increase the risk assessment is an excuse to increase premiums.

  10. Howcome it is I NEVER hear anything about the SUN’s contribution to Global Weather. That medium sized yellow, G type stare One AU from Earth that sends photons and things constantly to Earth’s side that is turned toward it. That star is One Thousand times the size of our World.

    It is ALWAYS people who causes Global Warming. And all Canadians are guilty even if our population around 36 Million hardly compares the other seven or eight BILLION other people populating Earth.

    Combined air pollution emitted by Canadians hardly show up on a graph compared to world wide pollution generated by the rest of humanity.

    Sure thing, got to try things reasonably clean, keep down messes and our air quality greatly improved even during the last thirty or forty years and I sure as hell don’t feel any guilt about turning up the heat during winter. It is not up to our elected wimps to TELL us what to do and how to do it, is it? Of course if they want to live in unheated rooms by all means do it but I bet they sure won’t only telling US how we should save energy, don’t generate CO2′ without following their ORDERS to others.

  11. Canada’s share of global emissions are 2% . . . the scary Oil Sands are a tiny fraction of that 2%. If you factor in the huge land mass of Canada and our extensive Greenery . . . . Canada is likely a NET Carbon SINK . . . but you will never hear that from the Alarmists.

    We know that the only way to know exact numbers about CO2 concentrations above the water and biomass surfaces is to measure them at the surface levels, which we do not do, and therefore use of CO2 levels measured at a single point on the globe and at 4000 meters altitude (Mauna Loa Observatory, MLO, at Hawaii) represents one of the most miss-used high accuracy dataset in the history of modern science.

    We know that the total emissions/reabsorption of CO2 by nature makes emissions of CO2 by burning fossil fuels totally insignificant and lost in the instrumental accuracy levels.

    We know that the levels of CO2 that we live amidst in our everyday lives have nothing in common with the observed CO2 levels at MLO based at an altitude of 4000 meters above sea level.

    We know that there is no difference between CO2 levels accurately measured 200 years ago and last year – they all go up and down depending when and where you measure them.

    We know that there is no possible correlation between CO2 levels dissolved in water in its liquid state and CO2 levels found in ice, i.e. water in its solid state.

    We know that it is CO2 that makes major contribution to the width of tree rings. So, no CO2 means no tree rings and no life.

    We know that the human body ignores CO2 levels in air when breathing in and the only function of breathing out is to get rid of CO2 that is created in every cell of the human body by the complex bio-chemical process that maintains life.

    We know that CO2 levels would need to reach concentration in air of 60,000 ppm (from current levels of 390 ppm) to become toxic for humans.

  12. I’m sure there’s explanation howcome that sneaky CO2 and GHG could’ve caused Ice Age in the 1970s and now can COULD cause Global Warming. ALso hundreds of scientific papers, Hollywood movies and statements from expert movie stars and those who ‘s jobs depend on climate preditions. So far nobody pointed out that World average temperatures did not rise noticably or where is that hard to find Global Warmng is hiding.

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